07-12-11, 09:13 AM
Falcon- I did write " several veteran foccers"...of course Luke is one of them.However in my book you are responsible for pioneering the implementation of the 2 greatest fazer mods - ivans jet kit ...and K tech suspension solution...both at a very early stage in fazer history, hence why you appear first in my list......I aint sure about the 1200 trumpet cos its very tall m8 ! I struggled a bit with the seat height of the 800, although it is a cracking back roads bike. Awesome handling.The 1200 is actually reported to be a bit taller...
The GS- feck, what an enigma....me and dek's encounter in the pyrenees with a pair of german plated GS 1150s back in 04 is abit of folklore now, our fazers obviously much more power on any straight bits, but struggled to keep up in the tight twisties. Since then I have encountered GS12s which were fastr than my fully modded fazer in mountain passes...so power is not the issue. They have a handling which inspires their riders to absolutely chuck them into bends.Whilst I never claim to be the fastest out there, if you go by me when I am on it...you are doing well. So I am quite happy to give praise where its due .Just having a fast bike dont make you a fast rider.Maybe on a road I know very well, or a track, the power advantage of a fazer will count , but so far , on the road, GS riders dont seem disadvantaged...
Dave- I cant see me going MS for the same reason as above- very tall seat height. By contrast you can get a GS with seat as low as 790mm !! Bout the same as me cut down fazer seat.I really dont know what bike I will go for next...may just keep the fazer , and maybe look at either the speed triple R ( very pricey for a second bike !
) or possibly a tricked up street triple R with all the goodies...reason being it will always be a back road scratcher , so aint sure the speed triple really much faster on such roads...I also am liking the new 848 duke streetfighter, for similar reason.Might even go completely left field and get one of those steve mcqueen bonnies ! :rollin
what i will say about the ( old model 1050) speed triple is its engine is so satisfying to use, its handling good enuff for most road situations, its been one of my favourite bikes to own and ride. It is a better ride overall than the fazer , which some may raise an eyebrow over, down to its superb responsive engine, fantastic brakes and forgiving ergos. But its not an allrounder, so ultimately cant replace the fazer. I will for sure ride the 1200 explorer, if it rides as well, its a possibility.But the fazer will remain.
The GS- feck, what an enigma....me and dek's encounter in the pyrenees with a pair of german plated GS 1150s back in 04 is abit of folklore now, our fazers obviously much more power on any straight bits, but struggled to keep up in the tight twisties. Since then I have encountered GS12s which were fastr than my fully modded fazer in mountain passes...so power is not the issue. They have a handling which inspires their riders to absolutely chuck them into bends.Whilst I never claim to be the fastest out there, if you go by me when I am on it...you are doing well. So I am quite happy to give praise where its due .Just having a fast bike dont make you a fast rider.Maybe on a road I know very well, or a track, the power advantage of a fazer will count , but so far , on the road, GS riders dont seem disadvantaged...
Dave- I cant see me going MS for the same reason as above- very tall seat height. By contrast you can get a GS with seat as low as 790mm !! Bout the same as me cut down fazer seat.I really dont know what bike I will go for next...may just keep the fazer , and maybe look at either the speed triple R ( very pricey for a second bike !

what i will say about the ( old model 1050) speed triple is its engine is so satisfying to use, its handling good enuff for most road situations, its been one of my favourite bikes to own and ride. It is a better ride overall than the fazer , which some may raise an eyebrow over, down to its superb responsive engine, fantastic brakes and forgiving ergos. But its not an allrounder, so ultimately cant replace the fazer. I will for sure ride the 1200 explorer, if it rides as well, its a possibility.But the fazer will remain.