The Covid thread

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I would of thought that If they can afford to go in the first place they should be able to afford to properly quarantine

Yep that's what I told you. £600 per person to quarantine in an approved hotel in Turkey, plus negative tests before and after, as opposed to £1750 to do the same in the UK. So for a family of 4 that's a difference of £4600. Plus, legally you have been tested as negative earlier.
And you wouldn't do that?

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How do they stop that from being fiddled like hell?.

It's probably less than putting the resulting infected people on ventilators for a week

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Report finds serious failings with WHO and global governments response to pandemic...

Yep, and some covid denying countries were worse than others - Brazil, India, Trumpville...

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I would of thought that If they can afford to go in the first place they should be able to afford to properly quarantine

Yep that's what I told you. £600 per person to quarantine in an approved hotel in Turkey, plus negative tests before and after, as opposed to £1750 to do the same in the UK. So for a family of 4 that's a difference of £4600. Plus, legally you have been tested as negative earlier.
And you wouldn't do that?

At the time there was no approved hotels in Turkey for the purpose of quarantine. And tourists had no restrictions once there so it was "just like an extra Holiday" they may well of tested negative before arrival in Turkey but than caught it there during their "extended Holiday" and then not isolated for the 10 days at home like they should. 

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Report finds serious failings with WHO and global governments response to pandemic...

Yep, and some covid denying countries were worse than others - Brazil, India, Trumpville...

But Trump ignored the WHO and banned travel from affected countries and the left were jumping up and down calling him racist for it. Now the same left are jumping up and down wanting borris to close the same boarders to the same people. Saying he is not doing it quick enough.

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At the time there was no approved hotels in Turkey for the purpose of quarantine. And tourists had no restrictions once there so it was "just like an extra Holiday" they may well of tested negative before arrival in Turkey but than caught it there during their "extended Holiday" and then not isolated for the 10 days at home like they should. 

Not true. Travellers from India required to stay 14 days in approved dormitories
https://www.thenationalnews.com/world/eu...-1.1218009

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Asides from the numerous claims for people who don't even exist, I was thinking more about the 'scally's' who are going to take the quarantine money and then go out to work anyway, regarding the extra cash as a nice little bonus and still infecting everyone.

OK then. Probably less than the money wasted on buying PPE from middle men who delivered kit not fit for purpose 

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At the time there was no approved hotels in Turkey for the purpose of quarantine. And tourists had no restrictions once there so it was "just like an extra Holiday" they may well of tested negative before arrival in Turkey but than caught it there during their "extended Holiday" and then not isolated for the 10 days at home like they should. 

Not true. Travellers from India required to stay 14 days in approved dormitories
https://www.thenationalnews.com/world/eu...-1.1218009

Travellers from Pakistan did not need to stay in designated dormitories 

Here from your link

But the deals are causing anger in Turkey, where a 7pm curfew is in place until May 17. Everyone entering Turkey must present a negative Covid-19 test, but only travellers from India are required to quarantine for 14 days in designated dormitories. Most tourists on short-term stays are exempt from the curfew.

Also from your link 

Vision Travels and Tours, also based in Pakistan but which lists a UK phone number, tells travellers: “No worries, be happy … travel back to UK from Pakistan and have holidays in Turkey during Covid 2021.”

  “No worries, be happy … travel back to UK from Pakistan and have holidays in Turkey during Covid 2021.” :rolleyes >:
Murat Emir, a deputy with Turkey’s main opposition party, questioned how many travellers from Pakistan and India had used the loophole to “wander around freely” before travelling to Britain. He suggested the quarantine requirement on travellers was not being applied consistently in Turkey.
“British citizens coming to Turkey from Pakistan can wander around freely, causing the Indian variant to spread here,” he said.

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I would of thought that If they can afford to go in the first place they should be able to afford to properly quarantine

Yep that's what I told you. £600 per person to quarantine in an approved hotel in Turkey, plus negative tests before and after, as opposed to £1750 to do the same in the UK. So for a family of 4 that's a difference of £4600. Plus, legally you have been tested as negative earlier.
And you wouldn't do that?

No because I wouldn't be traveling abroard in the first place. Why do you keep defending these people who are ‐ in the first place being irresponsible in traveling anyway and then deliberately circumventing measures put in place to try and protect our population.
Especially when you are quick to jump on those people who thought it would be safe and an open space to go to the beach, just so happens that a lot of other people thought the same thing at the same time. Those people were getting out for some fresh air after dutifully staying g at home.
Contrast that to ‐-    [/size]“No worries, be happy … travel back to UK from Pakistan and have holidays in Turkey during Covid 2021.”

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Odd how the left were so keen to follow the results table when the UK had the worst fatality figures in Europe, yet when we flew ahead on the vaccine rollout they keep saying how 'it isn't a race' and 'no one is safe until we're all safe'

Yes the NHS have done a fantastic job with the vaccine rollout. All that on a 1% increase in pay.
Just as well the job wasn't given to a private contractor like Serco. Otherwise it would have been another Test and Trace disaster, costing billions

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With the vast majority of the elderly and vulnerable now vaccinated, surely there shouldn't be all that many people who end up hospitalised on a ventilator now.

In line with the fewer who need to self isolate now.

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No because I wouldn't be traveling abroard in the first place. Why do you keep defending these people who are ‐ in the first place being irresponsible in traveling anyway and then deliberately circumventing measures put in place to try and protect our population. Especially when you are quick to jump on those people who thought it would be safe and an open space to go to the beach, just so happens that a lot of other people thought the same thing at the same time. Those people were getting out for some fresh air after dutifully staying g at home.

I'm not defending anybody. I'm pointing out that there are a large number of areas of risk and reasons for spread. Rather than targeting just one group.....

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Travellers from Pakistan did not need to stay in designated dormitories 

I thought we were talking about the Indian Variant  :rolleyes
Don't think there is a 'Pakistani Variant'.  They are two different countries you know.

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Travellers from Pakistan did not need to stay in designated dormitories 

I thought we were talking about the Indian Variant  :rolleyes
Don't think there is a 'Pakistani Variant'.  They are two different countries you know.

Ah that's ok then I don't need to worry about the Indian variant as clearly it doesn't like country borders.

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No because I wouldn't be traveling abroard in the first place. Why do you keep defending these people who are ‐ in the first place being irresponsible in traveling anyway and then deliberately circumventing measures put in place to try and protect our population. Especially when you are quick to jump on those people who thought it would be safe and an open space to go to the beach, just so happens that a lot of other people thought the same thing at the same time. Those people were getting out for some fresh air after dutifully staying g at home.

I'm not defending anybody. I'm pointing out that there are a large number of areas of risk and reasons for spread. Rather than targeting just one group.....

Not targeting anyone. I looked at the BBC and Sky for an explanation why the same towns were always the same ones when it comes to covid and couldn't find anything apart from the story about people bypassing quarantine. Its not my fault they were all from one group. 

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