The Covid thread

[YamFazFan]

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[fazersharp]

Turkey needs to be added to the Red list as does any other sh1t hole of a country that is being used like this.

Yet we didn't close all travel out of the UK until mid January, when we were deep into the second wave with 1,000 deaths each day, and before any immunisation.
Were we a 'sh1thole country'?

Sh1t hole Turkey just been added to the Red list. Seems like the Government is listening to me  :thumbup

[agricola]

I still think we need to be extremely cautious and not release the brakes so quickly. School local to me has had to shut down due to covid outbreak, and associated local schools are asking all siblings to report for testing asap. Id guess its likely they will close too. Foreign travel should remain off the agenda, in and out

[fazersharp]

I still think we need to be extremely cautious and not release the brakes so quickly. School local to me has had to shut down due to covid outbreak, and associated local schools are asking all siblings to report for testing asap. Id guess its likely they will close too. Foreign travel should remain off the agenda, in and out

Agreed. On all points. But feel there is room for - as I said, some more intermediate steps. Another one is that from the 17th a total of 6 people from different households can meet indoors but then as it stands it will be unlimited from the 21st June so from the first step which was allowing 6 people to meet in a garden back in 12th April to unlimited in June 21st there has been room for a few extra steps along the way building up the unlimited in June. 

[Dudeofrude]

What's doing my head in are the stupid nonsensical rules such as the fact you can go and stay in on a holiday park in a caravan but can't stay in a hotel room because apparently (in England anyway) a hotel room isn't self-catering accommodation?? Yet in Wales and Scotland it is!?

So obtuse are the rules that when i go away next week with my wife for her birthday we had originally planned a night in Liverpool as she likes the shopping there but due to the way the rules are we are no spending the day in Liverpool then driving across the border to a hotel in Wrexham (45mins away) then driving back into Liverpool the next day and I'm not breaking any rules!?

When I brought up the issue with the hotel in Liverpool they stated that they can't be classed as self catering due to the hallways and entrance foyer!! So it's fine for me to go to the gym and be surrounded by 10s of sweaty, heavy breathing strangers for 60mins at a time with no masks but it's too dangerous to briefly walk past someone in a hotel corridor while wearing masks ??

So following the so called "science" must mean that Wales and Scotland have scientists with common sense where as here in the England we are stuck with the idiots ?

[YamFazFan]

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[mtread]

ts good that you support Borris Johnson. I do not, given the success of the vax rollout there are many areas where they could take intermediate steps to relax restrictions, like they have just done for funerals and care homes.

I don't. As I said there are 4 separate governments in the UK making these decisions. Johnson is not the centre of the universe.
I support the science advising them. It's a pity Johnson didn't heed their advice earlier in the pandemic. Then we might not have the highest number of deaths in Europe.

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Sh1t hole Turkey just been added to the Red list. Seems like the Government is listening to me 

Again you fail to check any facts.
Turkey has been operating similar Indian immigration checks to the UK. Negative covid tests and 10 day mandatory quarantine in a designated hotel.
The reason people from India were stopping over was that Turkey charges £600 per person, instead of the UK's £1750.


By your reckoning, looks like Australia and New Zealand still think we are a sh1thole country.

[YamFazFan]

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[mtread]

Again you fail to check any facts.

I just used different facts to you 

[YamFazFan]

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[mtread]

Yeah, those which on the face of it make the UK look worse [/size]

Well I have used the 'per hundred thousand' argument in the past 

[YamFazFan]

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[fazersharp]

ts good that you support Borris Johnson. I do not, given the success of the vax rollout there are many areas where they could take intermediate steps to relax restrictions, like they have just done for funerals and care homes.

I don't. As I said there are 4 separate governments in the UK making these decisions. Johnson is not the centre of the universe.
I support the science advising them. It's a pity Johnson didn't heed their advice earlier in the pandemic. Then we might not have the highest number of deaths in Europe.

Its just really weird how the left have some sort of death porn when it come to covid. You say Johnson is not the centre of the universe but it does'nt seem that way every time a labour supporter opens their mouth. No matter how hard they try the electorate just doesn't buy Labours rhetoric that its all Borris fault. --- As has just been perfectly demonstrated on Thursday.   

[YamFazFan]

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I've no doubt you did earlier on in the pandemic when the UK actually was the worst, or thereabouts, by that measurement

It's called 'doing a Johnson'
As Michael Hesiltine recently said 'Boris waits to see which direction the crowd takes, then rushes to the front' 

[mtread]

That's because the electorate "keep getting it wrong"  

Apart from in Scotland, Wales, Manchester, Liverpool, London, Cambridge  etc 

[YamFazFan]

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[fazersharp]

All the talk yesterday and today was about Boris to announce that you can hug, BBC ran a 5 minute piece with graphics and science advisers on how to hug safely, it was bizarre.Again like I have been saying where are all the steps in between that we could of already been doing - like removing the 2M - 1M+ guide or allowing more than 6 outside - but no hugging.
Its gone straight from staying 2m away to hugging overnight.   

[YamFazFan]

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