My wife had hers a week or so back and didn't really suffer any problems. She got really lethargic and tired the night of it and woke up the next day with a headache and a really sore arm but by the end of the next day was all fine. Few of her colleges had the similar sort of reaction but lasting a few days. All in all nothing major
According to the scientists...... most likely side effects are caused by the body's immune system attacking what it 'thinks' is a virus, even though it isn't. That's how you build up the antibodies and t-cells for next time.
Been speaking to my mate in more detail about their symptoms. Apart from the joint pain fever and feeling really shitty constantly for 24 hours they had shooting pains in the lymph glands and lost sense of taste for around 8 hours which then turned into an altered sense of taste with things tasting wrong for another 48 hours smell was largely ok apart from also being altered for a while. The general unwell and feeling crappy and needing Ibrufen and paracetamol lasted for about 7 days but came in waves, feeling fine for a number of hours and then just being hit with it again.
I don't do rain or threat there of. dry rider only with no shame.
Yes. As far as we know the vax does not stop you getting it and it does not stop you from spreading it to others. Or the phrasing being used is "we do not yet know the effect on transmission"
Yes we know the vax is good at reducing your symptoms but that for me raises issues at least in the early rollout. If in a family one person due to their job is getting the vax 6 months before the rest of the family then when they get covid their otherwise obvious symptoms have now been reduced to nothing. They then unknowingly take covid back to the family, instead of showing symptoms and isolating from the other family members. I think in these households the vaccinated person needs to go home with a box of LFT tests so they can continually monitor. Which would also help in the research to see if the vax actually does stop you getting it and therefore spreading it.
I don't do rain or threat there of. dry rider only with no shame.
All the vaccines do is provide you with the antibodies and t-cells ready for when you do (if you) get it. But by enabling you to better fight the virus, you are less infectious and for less time.
I have been saying for ages there is a link between side effects and age. The old do not seem to be having any side effects. I came across this on the BBC - Prof Paul Hunter, of the University of East Anglia, was talking about Germany not giving the vaccine to over 65s. And he said.
"We do know that it is safe in people over 65. They have much fewer side effects than younger people"
I think that as the age of the vaccinated drops there will be more and more vaccine hesitancy as more and more people see their friends and family have a bad time after having it.
I can see a time where hesitancy becomes a problem. In the future I think a good way to get people to have it is announce that in 6 months time there will be a £150 (or whatever) charge to have the vaccine. A little bit like what microsoft did with update hesitancy prising windows 7 out of peoples hands and offering 10 free for a limited time.
I don't do rain or threat there of. dry rider only with no shame.
(30-01-21, 03:07 PM)fazersharp link Wrote: I have been saying for ages there is a link between side effects and age. The old do not seem to be having any side effects. I came across this on the BBC - Prof Paul Hunter, of the University of East Anglia, was talking about Germany not giving the vaccine to over 65s. And he said.
"We do know that it is safe in people over 65. They have much fewer side effects than younger people"
I think that as the age of the vaccinated drops there will be more and more vaccine hesitancy as more and more people see their friends and family have a bad time after having it.
I can see a time where hesitancy becomes a problem. In the future I think a good way to get people to have it is announce that in 6 months time there will be a £150 (or whatever) charge to have the vaccine. A little bit like what microsoft did with update hesitancy prising windows 7 out of peoples hands and offering 10 free for a limited time.
Open pubs, add the vaccine to booze, sorted.
More people are born because of alcohol than will ever die from it.
31-01-21, 01:03 PM (This post was last modified: 31-01-21, 01:04 PM by fazersharp.)
(31-01-21, 10:41 AM)robbo link Wrote: Got an armfull of Pfizers finest this morning. Still can't speak Chinese though. Mind you, I have enough trouble with English. :lol
Well done I am sure you will be fine.
I have found the published results from the trials which shows that the younger are getting side effects but not the old. Why is this info not mentioned anywhere in the news.The row at the top is 18-55 age
I don't do rain or threat there of. dry rider only with no shame.
(31-01-21, 01:03 PM)fazersharp link Wrote: [quote author=robbo link=topic=26604.msg322999#msg322999 date=1612086062]
Got an armfull of Pfizers finest this morning. Still can't speak Chinese though. Mind you, I have enough trouble with English. :lol
Well done I am sure you will be fine.
I have found the published results from the trials which shows that the younger are getting side effects but not the old. Why is this info not mentioned anywhere in the news.The row at the top is 18-55 age
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But who can prove that these ailments weren't about to happen anyway? Seeing as the jab takes weeks of the body going through a defence process to really have an effect.
People will have the jab who are already ill or are about to be ill, so blaming the vaccine could be totally false.
More people are born because of alcohol than will ever die from it.
(31-01-21, 04:42 PM)darrsi link Wrote: [quote author=fazersharp link=topic=26604.msg323002#msg323002 date=1612094602]
[quote author=robbo link=topic=26604.msg322999#msg322999 date=1612086062]
Got an armfull of Pfizers finest this morning. Still can't speak Chinese though. Mind you, I have enough trouble with English. :lol
Well done I am sure you will be fine.
I have found the published results from the trials which shows that the younger are getting side effects but not the old. Why is this info not mentioned anywhere in the news.The row at the top is 18-55 age
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But who can prove that these ailments weren't about to happen anyway? Seeing as the jab takes weeks of the body going through a defence process to really have an effect.
People will have the jab who are already ill or are about to be ill, so blaming the vaccine could be totally false.
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You mean like they do with the reported "covid" deaths ??
(31-01-21, 04:42 PM)darrsi link Wrote: [quote author=fazersharp link=topic=26604.msg323002#msg323002 date=1612094602]
[quote author=robbo link=topic=26604.msg322999#msg322999 date=1612086062]
Got an armfull of Pfizers finest this morning. Still can't speak Chinese though. Mind you, I have enough trouble with English. :lol
Well done I am sure you will be fine.
I have found the published results from the trials which shows that the younger are getting side effects but not the old. Why is this info not mentioned anywhere in the news.The row at the top is 18-55 age
[/quote]
But who can prove that these ailments weren't about to happen anyway? Seeing as the jab takes weeks of the body going through a defence process to really have an effect.
People will have the jab who are already ill or are about to be ill, so blaming the vaccine could be totally false.
[/quote]Look at the charts in my post they cover the 1st 7 days with the worst day being day 2.
I don't do rain or threat there of. dry rider only with no shame.
(31-01-21, 05:02 PM)Dudeofrude link Wrote: [quote author=darrsi link=topic=26604.msg323003#msg323003 date=1612107749]
[quote author=fazersharp link=topic=26604.msg323002#msg323002 date=1612094602]
[quote author=robbo link=topic=26604.msg322999#msg322999 date=1612086062]
Got an armfull of Pfizers finest this morning. Still can't speak Chinese though. Mind you, I have enough trouble with English. :lol
Well done I am sure you will be fine.
I have found the published results from the trials which shows that the younger are getting side effects but not the old. Why is this info not mentioned anywhere in the news.The row at the top is 18-55 age
[/quote]
But who can prove that these ailments weren't about to happen anyway? Seeing as the jab takes weeks of the body going through a defence process to really have an effect.
People will have the jab who are already ill or are about to be ill, so blaming the vaccine could be totally false.
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You mean like they do with the reported "covid" deaths ??
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I've had 2 friends die of Covid since last Sunday, and there's another family member of one of those still on a ventilator too.
That's "of" it, not "with" it.
Saying that, i don't agree with the 28 day window thing, it makes no sense at all, but i guess resources are not exactly plentiful right now to delve further into real causes of death rather than just tarring them with the same brush.
More people are born because of alcohol than will ever die from it.
(31-01-21, 05:44 PM)fazersharp link Wrote: [quote author=darrsi link=topic=26604.msg323003#msg323003 date=1612107749]
[quote author=fazersharp link=topic=26604.msg323002#msg323002 date=1612094602]
[quote author=robbo link=topic=26604.msg322999#msg322999 date=1612086062]
Got an armfull of Pfizers finest this morning. Still can't speak Chinese though. Mind you, I have enough trouble with English. :lol
Well done I am sure you will be fine.
I have found the published results from the trials which shows that the younger are getting side effects but not the old. Why is this info not mentioned anywhere in the news.The row at the top is 18-55 age
[/quote]
But who can prove that these ailments weren't about to happen anyway? Seeing as the jab takes weeks of the body going through a defence process to really have an effect.
People will have the jab who are already ill or are about to be ill, so blaming the vaccine could be totally false.
[/quote]Look at the charts in my post they cover the 1st 7 days with the worst day being day 2.
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Wouldn't surprise me if the reasoning is because people are so damn sterile these days with all the constant handwashing and sanitizing.
It can't be good for your own natural immune system?
More people are born because of alcohol than will ever die from it.