caroline flack

[darrsi]

http://https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scott...d-21543189

It's happening every day, people need to be supported when going through troubling times.

There was another one in the news yesterday, supposedly an "ex cocaine addict" who was unsurprisingly on loads of booze AND drugs when he brazenly stabbed a pub landlord to death because he'd been barred a few days earlier.
He too was blaming his 'mental health' issues for everything, although he did totally admit to the crime. Not that it made any difference because it was clearly all on CCTV anyway.
So another case where the culprit blames their troubles on their mental state, when in fact it's not nature taking a turn for the worse, but all preventable and self inflicted. I'm not saying people shouldn't let their hair down every now and then, but you need to be responsible for your own behaviour.
There are two main negative side effects that a lot of cokeheads suffer from, and that is unusual and out of character random acts of aggression or physical violence, and the other is talking total bullshit and lies thinking that people will believe your crap.
In short, it turns you into a predictably unpredictable arsehole.
Seen it all happen before with my own friends, with a response of complete and utter disbelief at something they've done or said that is so out of character you can easily guess what is going on with them.

[Grahamm]

So another case where the culprit blames their troubles on their mental state, when in fact it's not nature taking a turn for the worse, but all preventable

Isn't it fortunate that mental health and drug rehabilitation programme provisions haven't been cut to ribbons over the past decade... https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6025145/

[VNA]

So another case where the culprit blames their troubles on their mental state, when in fact it's not nature taking a turn for the worse, but all preventable and self inflicted.

People who have mental health issues, and indeed people who are continually bullied often turn to drink and drugs.  Then in turn an uncaring, judgemental society can wash their hands of such people – they brought it on themselves – junkies etc.

Plus we have a gutter press that is happy to use peoples personal lives, personal issues etc for entertainment, and a public happy to lap it all up.

[fazersharp]

[quote author=darrsi link=topic=25948.msg309621#msg309621 date=1582353621]
So another case where the culprit blames their troubles on their mental state, when in fact it's not nature taking a turn for the worse, but all preventable

Isn't it fortunate that mental health and drug rehabilitation programme provisions haven't been cut to ribbons over the past decade... https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6025145/
[/quote]Why are you quoting an American - drug company backed - organisation.

[YamFazFan]

Plus we have a gutter press that is happy to use peoples personal lives, personal issues etc for entertainment, and a public happy to lap it all up.

Like you when the gutter press publish stuff about Boris Johnson's personal life for example?.

[darrsi]

[quote author=darrsi link=topic=25948.msg309621#msg309621 date=1582353621]
So another case where the culprit blames their troubles on their mental state, when in fact it's not nature taking a turn for the worse, but all preventable

Isn't it fortunate that mental health and drug rehabilitation programme provisions haven't been cut to ribbons over the past decade... https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6025145/
[/quote]


I'm not reading all that, sorry.

[darrsi]

[quote author=VNA link=topic=25948.msg309634#msg309634 date=1582380976]
Plus we have a gutter press that is happy to use peoples personal lives, personal issues etc for entertainment, and a public happy to lap it all up.

Like you when the gutter press publish stuff about Boris Johnson's personal life for example?.
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Or the constant stupid and unfunny/offensive cartoons against Boris Johnson which could quite easily be classed as bullying.
In fact it really is thinking about it.

[VNA]

Or the constant stupid and unfunny/offensive cartoons against Boris Johnson which could quite easily be classed as bullying.
In fact it really is thinking about it.

My, my, imagine that, bullying a bully, a homophobic and misogynistic racist liar. :lol

[VNA]

[Grahamm]

So, when presented with evidence, one person decides they don't like the message, so they're going to shoot the messenger and the other one can't be bothered to even look at it, because that would involve a bit of effort (despite the fact that there's a simple 16 line Abstract at the top which tells you everything you need to know about the article).

Now *what* does that remind me of...??  :rolleyes

[YamFazFan]

I'd spend a bit more time examining why your beloved Labour party, who have the answer to everything, were led to their heaviest defeat since the 1930's if I were you Grahamm.
It's all very well constantly carping and whining about the incumbent Tory government but don't you think Labour should have been offering a credible, effective, alternative government instead of an unelectable, far left cult led by a Marxist who's stuck in the 1970's?.
Oh of course I forgot, the voters "Got it wrong again" :rolleyes

[YamFazFan]

Or the constant stupid and unfunny/offensive cartoons against Boris Johnson which could quite easily be classed as bullying.
In fact it really is thinking about it.

My, my, imagine that, bullying a bully, a racist, a homophobic and misogynistic racist liar. :lol

..and how useless must that mean the official opposition is if they go down to their heaviest defeat since the 1930's against such a man?.

[darrsi]

I'd spend a bit more time examining why your beloved Labour party, who have the answer to everything, were led to their heaviest defeat since the 1930's if I were you Grahamm.
It's all very well constantly carping and whining about the incumbent Tory government but don't you think Labour should have been offering a credible, effective, alternative government instead of an unelectable, far left cult led by a Marxist who's stuck in the 1970's?.
Oh of course I forgot, the voters "Got it wrong again" :rolleyes

Wasting your breath with these few, as was quite apparent months ago.

[VNA]

Oh of course I forgot, the voters "Got it wrong again"

It's a Tory government, lead, yes, by a homophobic and misogynistic racist liar.  Strange things, not surprisingly are happening, as nationalism and patriotism sweeps across England.

Oh of course I forgot, the voters "Got it wrong again"

Do try and remember that this a government elected by England.  Here this might help.......

[Grahamm]

I'd spend a bit more time (blah blah blah)

Ah, so we've gone from shooting the messenger to an ad hominem attack on me.

Fabulous technique!

Oh and, by the way, they're not MY "Beloved Labour Party". I'm not a Labour member. I'm not even a Labour supporter. What I *am* is someone who opposes the current Tory Party because of the mess they have got this country into.

[darrsi]

[quote author=YamFazFan link=topic=25948.msg309651#msg309651 date=1582405031]
I'd spend a bit more time (blah blah blah)

Ah, so we've gone from shooting the messenger to an ad hominem attack on me.

Fabulous technique!

Oh and, by the way, they're not MY "Beloved Labour Party". I'm not a Labour member. I'm not even a Labour supporter. What I *am* is someone who opposes the current Tory Party because of the mess they have got this country into.
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A bit like the small fact that i'm not a supporter of ANY party, as i have made it quite obvious from an early stage that i can't stand any of these politicians whatsoever, because they are most certainly all made from a similar mould, it's just that some are clearly more incompetent than the others.
Whether Boris Johnson appears to be fucking things up in a big way, lying about whatever, or not keeping promises in an impossible and thankless job, i do strongly believe that if Corbyn was in his shoes then he would fuck things up even more. 
It was a no win scenario this time around when the voting was going on, and the most accurate description i ever read was on here when it was suggested it was like choosing whether to cut your throat or your wrists!
I don't know what kind of scenario you have in your mind if Steptoe had been put in charge, but i just can't see why you'd think he could do any better than the shower of shite we have now?
Remember, HE is the sole reason Labour got the worst results ever.
If any of the Labour Party had any savvy whatsoever, they'd have binned him years ago, but no, they let him bring the whole party down even though historically his background was appalling.

[darrsi]

So, when presented with evidence, one person decides they don't like the message, so they're going to shoot the messenger and the other one can't be bothered to even look at it, because that would involve a bit of effort (despite the fact that there's a simple 16 line Abstract at the top which tells you everything you need to know about the article).

Now *what* does that remind me of...??  :rolleyes

Ok, whatever, i can live with that.
We're having a quickfire discussion, and i'll openly admit i can't be arsed reading a novel length borefest of uninteresting scripture.
I don't want to, i don't need to, so i just won't.

[YamFazFan]

[quote author=YamFazFan link=topic=25948.msg309651#msg309651 date=1582405031]
I'd spend a bit more time (blah blah blah)

Ah, so we've gone from shooting the messenger to an ad hominem attack on me.

Fabulous technique!

Oh and, by the way, they're not MY "Beloved Labour Party". I'm not a Labour member. I'm not even a Labour supporter. What I *am* is someone who opposes the current Tory Party because of the mess they have got this country into.
[/quote]
OK. We've heard what you're against. Now who, or what, is your solution to to 'the mess'?.

[YamFazFan]

Oh of course I forgot, the voters "Got it wrong again"

It's a Tory government, lead, yes, by a homophobic and misogynistic racist liar.  Strange things, not surprisingly are happening, as nationalism and patriotism sweeps across England.

Oh of course I forgot, the voters "Got it wrong again"

Do try and remember that this a government elected by England.  Here this might help.......

So it's alright when nationalism and patriotism sweeps across Scotland then?

[agricola]

and as I predicted in another thread, the 3 Amigos continue to pollute other threads with shite.