TFT Dash for the Fazer 1000 / FZ1

[Mustang]

Have to say not a fan of top speed being on the main screen.

[Dudeofrude]

Thanks so much for your comments! Thought I'd post an update on the development. Got the complete kit mounted on my bike today and took it for it's first road test with the TFT Dash mounted. Performed real nice, but me being a perfectionist I need to be happy with the values I'm seeing - a couple of tweaks to the voltage reading and fuel readings as this was fluctuating quite a bit whilst riding on the road - quite understandably as you ride your fuel in the tank will slosh about causing the float to move up and down therefore generating a range of values which need to be interpreted correctly.


Here's a video talking about the latest developments & a run through of the different menu options.


https://youtu.be/4CylaMNT9BM

I've got to ask because its driving me nuts..... why is the screen upside down? Lol

[DJDLTD]

Yeah I'll probably move the max speed to the secondary display so you have to press the select button to see it. As for the display being upside down - this is mainly due to the model of TFT screen I'm using, the back of it where you connect the HDMI input protrudes about 3cm which gets in the way of the mounting bracket, but if I turn it upside down and flip the image - problem solved lol.

[crankcase]

That is some fantastic work! I actually registered on the forum just to check it out  :lol


I am currently using the multi gauge made my grommet and schlumpf on the yamahafz1oa forum, and I especially love the fact that your design is completely plug & play :thumbup

[DJDLTD]

Yeah aiming for this to be completely plug & play. Latest update video:


https://youtu.be/nkVYGCFAAtw


This time bring a camera along with me for the ride - the first time I took it up to motorway speeds with the TFT Dash installed I discovered my speedo was way way off after comparing it to my sat nav (my previous testing has so far been in the garage with the bike on the centre stand). Took a different approach in the code for calculating speed and now it's spot on! Simpler is always better as they say! Now just need to sort my gear indicator. RPM and Speed is accurate but RPM is a bit jittery so would like to smooth this out - gear indicator keeps thinking I'm in 1st which isn't right so need to work out whats going on there. I've sent off for some proper waterproof enclosures which will contain the electronics + screen. So ideally when I ship these it will just be one thing to unplug and plug in. The prototype on my bike has bits everywhere at the moment lol.

[Dynspud]

As you say at the end of the video, "Looking good"!!!  :thumbup :woot

[ogri48]

that is soooooooooo good mate

[crankcase]

Speaking of shipping... have you done the sums already? How much do you reckon one of these would cost, shipped to Hong Kong or Singapore?

[DJDLTD]

I'd imagine cost of shipping would be dependant on size and weight - whilst not overly weighty, the overall cost at the moment is still 'in flux'. Mainly now as the software / hardware design is largely complete and the TFT Dash works as expected, I'm now toying with different ways to package this up. Either I provide a DIY kit for you guys, which include the primary parts - so basically a box with all the electronics which you plug into your bike (a smallish box), and then you mount the screen to your existing mount with provided brackets, and then find a suitable place for the main box with electronics which I call the 'Bike interface'. Other option is I package this up in a complete unit with everything in one - much like your existing yamaha clocks. Only issue I'm finding with this is that whilst I have a perfectly designed enclosure which will house everything nicely, it's proving a challenge to get these things injection moulded for a reasonable price that won't affect the price of the TFT Dash. Recent injection moulding quotes I've been provided have way exceeded the cost of making one of these, so I'm looking alternate options. The other side of this is that I'm a slight perfectionist and I wouldn't want to ship a product to you guys that I wasn't completely happy with. Currently my prototype uses a 3D printed enclosure which houses the electronics, and an off the shelf 7 inch display which I've modified to be water resistant. Given the cost of injection moulding, I've taken a slightly different approach and am refining my electronics design to be physically smaller so I can ship the electronics in a much smaller unit than I currently have as a prototype. At least you can then decide how you want to mount it. More updates to follow!

[crankcase]

My 2c for whatever it's worth


The user experience would be quite different between the all-in-one-box vs the display and electronics being mounted separately.


I would imagine most would have a strong preference, for either the sleek dash OR the lower hassle of an all-in-one module.


Personally I'm in the latter camp, but perhaps it's worth doing a straw poll to see which way the wind is blowing, before you devote your time & energy to a particular solution...?

[DJDLTD]

Completely agree - I've imagined this always being a single unit whereby you just unplug your old unit, plug in the new unit - mount on the bracket and you're ready to go. Good news is one of the fabrication houses I've been looking at finally came through with a sample of the complete enclosure design. Will post pictures soon once I've got all the electronics mounted inside, but it's looking great. So the all in one solution is looking much more promising. Once I've got all the electronics mounted I'll be refining the design of the enclosure just to remove any additional size that I don't need and get this as compact as possible, then I'll send off for a batch of a few of them and get ready to ship.

[Stainy]

I'm definitely interested in this. However, the bezel on the LCD unit is huge and I have my reservations about putting it on the bike tbh

[DJDLTD]

Yeah the Bezel on that display on my prototype is massive. This was using an off the shelf display. The units I will ship will have a much smaller bezel (as close to edge to edge as possible), and the unit will be much more compact (and aesthetically pleasing It's taken a while to find someone who can manufacture the enclosures for a decent enough price.

[ogri48]

your obviously putting a lot of thought into this as well as expertise. nicely done feller

[tex]

Absolutely brilliant this , I'll be getting g one

[Mustang]

Any idea on prices yet?

[kebab19]

Very impressive, would like one of those myself.
You should post your prototype on the US FZ1OA website - they'll probly go into a frenzy over the prospect of adding modern techno-gadgetry on the old bus  :lol

[DJDLTD]

Yeah will put this up on the FZ1OA forums. Bit more of an update (with pictures) - Assembled the first all in one unit and got this mounted to the bike. Fits and mounts nicely, this unit is chunky and bezels are large - I've got a compact enclosure on the way - quite a bit thinner and much thinner bezel around the display. First 2 pics is essentially what I'll be shipping (albeit smaller). Literally just unbolt your old clocks (take a note of your odo before doing so), bolt in TFT Unit, plug in the connector and switch ignition on, and you'll be prompted to enter odometer reading which will be permanently saved. There will be an antireflective coating on top of the display which is sealed to the outer casing, so in a rain storm water will just run off - to prevent the unit suffering from condensation from the inside there will be covered breather holes on the back (much like original clocks). PCB's on the inside are also covered with a waterproof coating as a last line of defence against bad weather. As for price after totally up costs of making one unit, I'll initially be pricing these at £249.


After installing the only 2 things you'll have to mount are the control buttons (I've installed mine on the clutch side just underneath the switchgear which is a nice place and doesn't obstruct anything). Other other item to mount is the external temperature sensor. I'd just recommend mounting this not too close to the engine and away from direct wind blast so you'll get an accurate reading of ambient temperature


Will keep you posted!

[Falcon 269]

I've got to say how hugely impressed I am by the way you've engineered this through to a finished, plug 'n' play solution.  Outstanding job!

[Dudeofrude]

That's a great price too! Especially when you compare to the likes of Koso etc shame it's no good for a gen 2 haha