Today's "What Gets My Goat" - NO POLITICS!

[coffee]

Now find that 50s style diner for the picture challenge or I'll get really mad! :lol

[red98]

Well said COFFEE.......one life ,bike it  :thumbup



mmmmmmmm 50's diner......i'll fill the thou up In the morning , and burn the foccin lot in a couple of hours that should help control global warming   

[fazersharp]

Well said COFFEE.......one life ,bike it  :thumbup



mmmmmmmm 50's diner......i'll fill the thou up In the morning , and burn the foccin lot in a couple of hours that should help control global warming   

Well I ain't cause global warming means its now raining. Funny when people just blindly reiterate what the gov funded scientists say.     

[agricola]

We have just recorded the highest ever temperature recorded in the UK.  38.7 degrees at Cambridge University's Botanic Gardens.  That temperature has to be verified by the Met Office.


The 8 hottest years globally, since records began, have occurred in the last ten years.


At the end of the day if you keep increasingly the concentration of co2 in the atmosphere, then you will get temperature rises. 



Oh global warming will see increased rainfall in the UK, and in particular more flash flodding.


Once again, all the predictions are coming true, but still there is little sign of any willingness to change.

Just enough to melt the ice caps, then we can extract the reserves underneath

[mtread]

Scientists - pah. The doomsters and gloomsters. We've had enough of people who know what they're talking about.  :eek

[YamFazFan]

We have just recorded the highest ever temperature recorded in the UK.  38.7 degrees at Cambridge University's Botanic Gardens.  That temperature has to be verified by the Met Office.


The 8 hottest years globally, since records began, have occurred in the last ten years.


At the end of the day if you keep increasingly the concentration of co2 in the atmosphere, then you will get temperature rises. 



Oh global warming will see increased rainfall in the UK, and in particular more flash flodding.


Once again, all the predictions are coming true, but still there is little sign of any willingness to change.

You ride a C90 and a Gen1 Fazer 1000 (+ driving a car).


You ought to be one of the last people to lecture everyone about increasing CO2 emissions and global warming :lol

[fazersharp]

Scientists - pah. The doomsters and gloomsters. We've had enough of people who know what they're talking about.  :eek

These people "who know what they are talking about" receive their funding - livelihood - pension from the very government who then use that "evidence" to #1 Control you #2 Tax you (also a very good method of control ).
All of science is not in agreement despite what the gov controlled MSM tells you. The whole global warming (sorry climate change ) push by governments is motivated by tax. Its brilliant really and working, as we are the witnessing the first time in history where the population are asking for more tax.
Think about it, that tax people are willing to pay be it - climate levy / fuel tax / green tax /Congestion Charge  doesn't all go into saving the planet it go's into building more roads and weapons and chemicals - all not renown for their green credentials.
Its heart warming really the child like quality that some people portray when they believe what they are told by their "caring green governments". Carry on believing what you are told -- carry on asking for more tax but rest assured that tax will not benefit the poor which are so often used as the flag bearer for the liberal champagne socialist elite.

[fazersharp]

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We have just recorded the highest ever temperature recorded in the UK.  38.7 degrees at Cambridge University's Botanic Gardens.  That temperature has to be verified by the Met Office.


The 8 hottest years globally, since records began, have occurred in the last ten years.


At the end of the day if you keep increasingly the concentration of co2 in the atmosphere, then you will get temperature rises. 



Oh global warming will see increased rainfall in the UK, and in particular more flash flodding.


Once again, all the predictions are coming true, but still there is little sign of any willingness to change.

You ride a C90 and a Gen1 Fazer 1000 (+ driving a car).


You ought to be one of the last people to lecture everyone about increasing CO2 emissions and global warming :lol
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Yep classic liberal elite. As the great philosopher Mark Almond once said in his non stop erotic cabaret thought piece 

I'll talk about famine
While cooking my dinner
While my head gets fatter
And the starving get thinner.
Misery
Complaints
Self pity
Injustice 

[mtread]

Think about it, that tax people are willing to pay be it - climate levy / fuel tax / green tax /Congestion Charge  doesn't all go into saving the planet it go's into building more roads and weapons and chemicals - all not renown for their green credentials.

I think you will find that the intended purpose of these taxes is to change behaviour
London Congestion Charge
Climate Change Levy
Air Passenger Duty
Vehicle Excise Duty variable rates
etc


Never heard of the 'Green Tax'? Something to do with cabbage?  :rolleyes

[fazersharp]

Think about it, that tax people are willing to pay be it - climate levy / fuel tax / green tax /Congestion Charge  doesn't all go into saving the planet it go's into building more roads and weapons and chemicals - all not renown for their green credentials.

I think you will find that the intended purpose of these taxes is to change behaviour
London Congestion Charge
Climate Change Levy
Air Passenger Duty
Vehicle Excise Duty variable rates
etc


Never heard of the 'Green Tax'? Something to do with cabbage?  :rolleyes

You really believe the spin the of "the intended purpose of these taxes is to change behaviour" then good for you that is totally your choice and right to believe what you need to. Who's behaviour do you think these regressive taxes in the name of the environment  will change -- the rich which the left (you) hate or the poor who can not afford the fuel tax - brand new low co2 cars and haven forbid they treat their family to a little holiday via a plane or even put in a little extra fuel in their old cars to drive to the coast for a few days . Typical left champagne socialist liberal elite attitude. Those policies are  not going too well for Macron right now. And the London congestion charge is just accelerating the economic cleansing of the capitol but maybe that's your plan.       

[coffee]

Well said COFFEE.......one life ,bike it  :thumbup



mmmmmmmm 50's diner......i'll fill the thou up In the morning , and burn the foccin lot in a couple of hours that should help control global warming   

Just be careful Red,don't be a statistic. :'(

[Dudeofrude]

Think about it, that tax people are willing to pay be it - climate levy / fuel tax / green tax /Congestion Charge  doesn't all go into saving the planet it go's into building more roads and weapons and chemicals - all not renown for their green credentials.

I think you will find that the intended purpose of these taxes is to change behaviour
London Congestion Charge
Climate Change Levy
Air Passenger Duty
Vehicle Excise Duty variable rates
etc


Never heard of the 'Green Tax'? Something to do with cabbage?  :rolleyes

I know that's the official line but surely you can't honestly believe that's the governments intention?

What do you think they would do if (hypothetically) not a single person drove their car into London today and used public transport instead? You think theyd be happy with the lost the millions in revenue?
Would they release a press statement thanking us for helping the planet.... or do you think the price of public transport would suddenly triple overnight?

It's the same reason alcohol and smoking arent banned.... nothing to do with public interest, just lining the right people pockets

[VNA]

All of science is not in agreement

Indeed, there are those who believe the earth is flat and that cigarettes don’t cause cancer.  So beware what the gov controlled msm tells you.

Would they release a press statement thanking us for helping the planet.

It’s not about helping the planet.  It’s about survival.  The planet will regulate itself – ultimately anything that upsets the balance of the planet will be eliminated, and therefore balance will be restored. 

[fazersharp]

All of science is not in agreement

Indeed, there are those who believe the earth is flat and that cigarettes don’t cause cancer.  So beware what the gov controlled msm tells you.

Yes there are those people - and they are nutters. So you are saying that all the climate experts who do not tow the line and conform are also nutters, its that attitude that suppresses some climate scientists from speaking out for fear of not having their research grant renewed.
Anyway remind us Mr environment what fuel does that power station that you work in burn.     

[mtread]

I know that's the official line but surely you can't honestly believe that's the governments intention?

Well I know at least one of them to be a fact 
Alcohol and tobacco are a bit different. Taxes that have been around since the 18th century.
However.....
High Strength Beer Duty is designed to stop people wrecking themselves on Special Brew and Tennants Extra.
The Scottish Government's minimum pricing policy is to stop the Scots doing the same on White Lightening, and
The Tobacco Excise Duty Escalator is to make people cut down on smoking.
Otherwise don't you think there would be extra tax on vaping?

[fazersharp]

The Tobacco Excise Duty Escalator is to make people cut down on smoking.
Otherwise don't you think there would be extra tax on vaping?

There will be once the tax income on cigs reaches a certain low level. Just like what has happened with car tax too many people were taking up the option of buying low co2 cars and only paying £30 tax, the tax revenue went down so they had to move the goal posts so that those same co2 cars now pay £145. The same will happen with electric cars which at the moment are £0, according to your logic in the near future we will all be driving around in £0 tax rated electric cars.
The idea that tax is to change behaviour is just a spin to make the implementation of it more aggregable to the population.High strength beer duty will do nothing to stop those intent on wrecking them selves - do you think they care for how much it costs, with that you are just taxing the already vulnerable -now that's not a very socialist attitude to care is it.         

[VNA]

The Scottish Government's minimum pricing policy is to stop the Scots doing the same on White Lightening, and

Scots drinking – no surely not. :lol

Yes there are those people - and they are nutters. So you are saying that all the climate experts who do not tow the line and conform are also nutters,

Some searches on google estimate that climatologists are somewhere between 97-98% in agreement on the manmade climate change theory.


And there is nothing new about the greenhouse co2 effect. Joseph Fourier in 1824 first argued that the earth’s atmosphere acted as insulation holding heat in and sustaining life.  From here others worked out the various properties of the gases that make up our atmosphere.


By 1896 Svante Arrhenius had precited that man’s use of fossil fuels would lead to an increase in CO2 in the atmosphere in turn leading to a rise in temperature. 

[fazersharp]

By 1896 Svante Arrhenius had precited that man’s use of fossil fuels would lead to an increase in CO2 in the atmosphere in turn leading to a rise in temperature. 

Others have pointed out that in older earth history the earth Co2 level has been higher and yet had lower temperatures. There is an argument that points out the reluctance of climate predictions to take any notice of the main source of our heat - the Sun and its 11-12 year cycle or its even longer cycle ontop of that one, evidence has shown that there have been much warmer periods without the help of the industrial revolution. The statement that the climate science is settled is simply not correct. That is the BBC's stated position on the subject (the climate science is settled ) and they are refusing to air anyone with an opposite view, they are supposed to be neutral. Proof of their misinformation can be seen when ever they cover a story about global warming and show a glacier "melting" when infact it is doing exactly what glaciers do - which is flow to the sea just like a river. IMO that can be justifiably classed as fake news.       
I remember in the early 80s being taught that we were heading for another ice age and indeed the records show that we are over due for one. At that time there was serious talk by governments to control climate to prevent the onset of an ice age by using aircraft to spray in the atmosphere, could it be that it worked too well and Co2 has been used as a cover story. What about if it has run out of control and they are now using aircraft to spray to try and cut down the sunlight and your Co2 tax is funding it. 

[VNA]

Others have pointed out that in older earth history the earth Co2 level has been higher and yet had lower temperatures. There is an argument that points out the reluctance of climate predictions to take any notice of the main source of our heat - the Sun and its 11-12 year cycle or its even longer cycle ontop of that one, evidence has shown that there have been much warmer periods without the help of the industrial revolution. The statement that the climate science is settled is simply not correct. That is the BBC's stated position on the subject (the climate science is settled ) and they are refusing to air anyone with an opposite view, they are supposed to be neutral. Proof of their misinformation can be seen when ever they cover a story about global warming and show a glacier "melting" when infact it is doing exactly what glaciers do - which is flow to the sea just like a river. IMO that can be justifiably classed as fake news.       
I remember in the early 80s being taught that we were heading for another ice age and indeed the records show that we are over due for one. At that time there was serious talk by governments to control climate to prevent the onset of an ice age by using aircraft to spray in the atmosphere, could it be that it worked too well and Co2 has been used as a cover story. What about if it has run out of control and they are now using aircraft to spray to try and cut down the sunlight and your Co2 tax is funding it. 

You are quite mad - bonkers :lol

[mtread]

.High strength beer duty will do nothing to stop those intent on wrecking them selves - do you think they care for how much it costs, with that you are just taxing the already vulnerable -now that's not a very socialist attitude to care is it. 

Oi, NO POLITICS!
It depends how high you raise the tax. Do you honestly think that raising tobacco taxes extortionately has had no affect on reducing smoking?