Just been told £2000 to repair my FZ1S

[steve 10562cc]

Checked mine last night big relief mine isn't either,   

[Dudeofrude]

I'm still none the wiser Haha mines 2D14-060 B ? Any ideas

[unfazed]

Your bike is in the list of bikes with the suspect generator, get on to Yamaha about it.

[midden]

Silly question but why didn't you call your breakdown recovery  to ask them to retrieve it for you?

I did, they said they wouldn't collect it as it was at a garage.

Wow do you have the most basic policy......I'd change that recovery company next year then......if not immediately

[Dudeofrude]

Your bike is in the list of bikes with the suspect generator, get on to Yamaha about it.

Rang my local dealer, bikes 12 years old and it's not an official recall so basically they arent bothered ? so I can either ignore it or fork out £300 for a new one on the off chance it might go

[VNA]

R

ang my local dealer, bikes 12 years old and it's not an official recall so basically they arent bothered ? so I can either ignore it or fork out £300 for a new one on the off chance it might go

Personally, wouldn’t bother with the dealer.  Contact the importer.  It is a 12 year old bike, and as you say not an official recall, so you may not get anywhere but it’s worth a polite phone call and asking if they can help.  You never know you might get lucky and get a cut price replacement generator.


Contact details here - https://www.yamaha-motor.eu/gb/en/contact/

[Dudeofrude]

R

ang my local dealer, bikes 12 years old and it's not an official recall so basically they arent bothered ? so I can either ignore it or fork out £300 for a new one on the off chance it might go

Personally, wouldn’t bother with the dealer.  Contact the importer.  It is a 12 year old bike, and as you say not an official recall, so you may not get anywhere but it’s worth a polite phone call and asking if they can help.  You never know you might get lucky and get a cut price replacement generator.


Contact details here - https://www.yamaha-motor.eu/gb/en/contact/

Cheers... I'll give that a go tomorrow ?

[b1k3rdude]

To get a bike shop to swap the engine is only a few hours work (then see if you do a deal with the bikeshop to either strip (so you can seel the parts) or sell/displose of the old engine for you) and FZ1 engine can be had for around £500, but it seems the generator seizing is a common fault (WTF there was never a recall for this I dont know) -

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Yamaha-FZ1-Fa...Sw5cJaokMP

Back to getting the bike back on the road -

• Black engine sold as running £499 - https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Complete-Runn...Sw~atcNjNc
  
• Silver engine sold as running £549 - https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Yamaha-FZ1-S-...Swo4pYIyjO
  

Then either keep or sell the bike.

[b1k3rdude]

@Mods - this should be pinned or a linked added to a pinned thread.

[YamFazFan]

but it seems the generator seizing is a common fault (WTF there was never a recall for this I dont know)

If it's not considered to be a safety issue then the manufacturer probably has to weigh up the cost of replacement/rectification against the potential damage to their reputation if they don't issue a recall.


There was a similar issue with the FZS 600. A number of the OE front sprocket nuts loosened and came off in use. Upon measurement some of the output shafts were found to be slightly undersized.


The rectification was a new nut with a couple of extra threads and I think the recommendation that thread-locking compound be applied.


There was no official recall. Output shaft replacement is a long, costly job.

[fazersharp]

[quote author=b1k3rdude link=topic=25403.msg300199#msg300199 date=1562262327]
but it seems the generator seizing is a common fault (WTF there was never a recall for this I dont know)

If it's not considered to be a safety issue then the manufacturer probably has to weigh up the cost of replacement/rectification against the potential damage to their reputation if they don't issue a recall.

There was a similar issue with the FZS 600. A number of the OE front sprocket nuts loosened and came off in use. Upon measurement some of the output shafts were found to be slightly undersized.
The rectification was a new nut with a couple of extra threads and I think the recommendation that thread-locking compound be applied.
There was no official recall. Output shaft replacement is a long, costly job.
[/quote]The 600 I think was a service note extra which was to be done when the bike was serviced with a wider nut from the oem 9mm to a 12mm + an extra 20Nm and threadlock. I am not sure if a member on here actually had a shaft replaced because the nut coming undone had stripped the shaft thread. 

[pete786]

Yamaha were doing replacement shafts and nuts foc. (FZS600)
had mine done by the local stealer in Cambridge, took them about 16 weeks :eek as I remember, although it was supposed to take about 4hrs according to Yamaha.No wonder they shut down!

[YamFazFan]

I bet that was Allins, Histon Road?.


Remember any of these Cambridge dealers? (all gone now)...


Andy Lee, Mill road.
Freddie Mayes, Mill road.
Hallens, Hawthorn way.
Graham Jenkins, Cromwell road.
Drakes, Hills road.

[VNA]

I am not sure if a member on here actually had a shaft replaced because the nut coming undone had stripped the shaft thread. 

Mine went in 2003.  It was the first I had heard of the issue.  Yamaha had not yet accepted it was an issue.  I tried to clean the threads, put a new chain and sprocket set on, tightened the nut but it wouldn’t hold on the damaged threads.  I needed a new output shaft, which frankly would cost a small fortune.  And stripping gear boxes is not my thing - I don't think a DIY attempt at that would have had a happy ending :eek


So I torqued the nut up as far as it would go.  Got the arc welder out and spot welded it in place.  Rode about for another 6mnths or so, and then traded it in for the thou.  Happy days

[F4celess]

Streetbudgie - have you considered stripping your bike down and selling for Parts?
With the money you make from doing this, you could have a substantial sum, to put towards another bike?
The sentimental value does decrease, once you start shifting parts and seeing the cash in your bank account (I've been there myself).

Could even sell the bike as it is, complete, yet with an engine that requires attention or replacement (if you don't have the time/space to strip it yourself).

That is, if the prospect of sourcing and fitting a new engine is out of the question for whatever reason(s).

[Streetbudgie]

I have told the garage who have my bike to go ahead and order the flywheel and generator and fit them.I had the road test on the MT10 today and hated it, so I'd rather get my Fazer fixed for £1k than spend £15k on a bike I don't like.

[b1k3rdude]

So I torqued the nut up as far as it would go.  Got the arc welder out and spot welded it in place.  Rode about for another 6mnths or so, and then traded it in for the thou. 

Note to self, dont buy a bike off VNA...

[b1k3rdude]

I had the road test on the MT10 today and hated it

what did you dislike about the M10..

[Fazian]

OP did you ever resolve this? Did the repairs work?

[Oldgit]

Scrap it simples.