(27-05-19, 08:46 PM)Grahamm link Wrote: [quote author=YamFazFan link=topic=24678.msg298309#msg298309 date=1558963293]
As clearly displayed by this results map of England and Wales :lol ...
Now try showing us one weighted by population (you know, the *number* of people who voted) instead of area, because, surprisingly, large sections of empty space don't actually vote... :rolleyes
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Sorted :thumbup ...
27-05-19, 09:29 PM (This post was last modified: 27-05-19, 09:37 PM by fazersharp.)
(27-05-19, 08:52 PM)VNA link Wrote:
Quote:The vast majority of leavers have just voted to leave on WTO rules.
How do you figure that? Which is, in any case, different from actually knwoing why you want to leave.
The leavers who voted for the Brexit party did so knowing that the brexit party have said that voting for them is a vote to leave on WTO rules. I would not expect you to know that because you and your side kick are too busy mutually masturbating each other over your side kicks tommy robbo thread.
I don't do rain or threat there of. dry rider only with no shame.
(27-05-19, 09:02 PM)YamFazFan link Wrote: [quote author=mtread link=topic=24678.msg298326#msg298326 date=1558980496]
Would have been there, but I'm now in Carlisle on the way to Remain Central.
Every time Carlisle is mentioned I can almost smell those biscuits cooking :b
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Quote:The leavers who voted for the Brexit party did so knowing that the brexit party have said that voting for them is a vote to leave on WTO rules.
No, what they voted for is this;
We have not left the EU. The EU is a democratic union. Therefore, as full current members of the EU we are duty bound to take part in the EU elections.
It is an election to elect your representatives in the EU parliament. So, what the people who have voted for Nigel’s one man band lucky dip party have done is to elect representatives who oppose the existence of the democratic institution called the European Union. Which really when you think about it is a bit silly.
The BREXIT party has no real influence whatsoever as to whether the UK leaves the EU or not, or if it leaves with a deal or without a deal. That is a matter for the UK parliament.
And as I have pointed out, seeing as The BREXIT Party has only two policies.
1. To leave the EU
2. To privatise the NHS
Well, based on that they have two chances of making any impression in a general election.
(27-05-19, 07:38 PM)ogri48 link Wrote: I try really hard not to get involved in mud slinging and name calling on the old internet, because i'd much rather say something to someones face. But you are a patronising prick mtread, who constantly tries to take the high morale ground, and I'm done interacting with someone like that. I'll stick to the fazer thou threads, and you can stick to acting like everybody else here doesn't warrant a civil reply.
By your side on this one fella - you can VNA to the same group as Mtread - respect other views ffs!
Those are my principles...if you don't like them I have others.
(27-05-19, 09:24 PM)YamFazFan link Wrote: [quote author=Grahamm link=topic=24678.msg298347#msg298347 date=1558986376]
Now try showing us one weighted by population (you know, the *number* of people who voted) instead of area, because, surprisingly, large sections of empty space don't actually vote... :rolleyes
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Err, no, that just shows areas, not the number of people.
Whilst you're looking for that, here's some interesting figures on the number of votes for you...
The Brexit Party - 5,248,533
UKIP - 554,463
Total - 5,802,996
Lib Dems - 3,367,284
Greens - 2,023,380
SNP - 594,553
Plaid Cymru - 163,928
Change UK - 571,846
Total - 6,720,991
Oh and PS, the number of people who signed the petition Revoke Article 50 and remain in the EU - 6,085,326
I respect everybody's views. I just don't happen to agree with them. And I can do that without actually calling them pricks :lol
Carlisle - I smell no biscuits either. Mind you in a Premier Inn all I can smell is harpic
So, the country is split (more or less) in half between hard Brexit and hard Remain. How do we get out of this mess?
Quote:So, the country is split (more or less) in half between hard Brexit and hard Remain. How do we get out of this mess?
I’m gonna disagree with you, but please don’t call me a prick. :lol
The United Kingdom is a Union. It is the Union of the United Kingdom and Northern Ireland. There are four countries in this Union. Two, England and Wales, appear to perhaps (maybe no longer) have a majority of people who want to leave the EU. Two countries, Scotland and Northern Ireland, clearly do not wish to leave the EU.
If you want to protect this Union, which many clearly feel is their country, then it is clear – cancel article 50.
Quote:Oh and PS, the number of people who signed the petition Revoke Article 50 and remain in the EU - 6,085,326
Now 6,085,331 :lol
So the biggest petition in the history of the UK
The response from the government;
Quote:This Government will not revoke Article 50. We will honour the result of the 2016 referendum and work with Parliament to deliver a deal that ensures we leave the European Union.
But...... in the international standard ISO list of 'countries' Northern Ireland is described as a 'province' not a 'country'. Probably so as not to upset Eire.
There I go, being a 'patronising prick' yet again :lol
On the other hand, yes Revoke Article 50, and think about leaving the EU in another 40 years time. You know it makes sense
Quote:But...... in the international standard ISO list of 'countries' Northern Ireland is described as a 'province' not a 'country'. Probably so as not to upset Eire.
There I go, being a 'patronising prick' yet again [img alt=:lol]http://foc-u.co.uk/Smileys/efocicon/lol.gif[/img]
(27-05-19, 11:15 PM)mtread link Wrote: Carlisle - I smell no biscuits either.
Bank holiday Monday .
Walking around the castle last year it was all you could smell. Lovely. really whets the appetite for lunch :b . Apparently the locals can identify what type of biscuit the McVities factory is producing each day just from the odour wafting across the town :lol
(27-05-19, 11:03 PM)Grahamm link Wrote: Oh and PS, the number of people who signed the petition Revoke Article 50 and remain in the EU - 6,085,326
'The number of people who signed the petition'...that's a bold claim claim given the findings of exactly who, or rather what, has 'voted', and how many times, in previous online petitions :lol .
I'll stick to the only count that truly matters thanks Grahamm. The election system where only real, registered and eligible voters participate :thumbup .
Both sides of the Leave/Remain argument can dance on the head of a pin all day counting up and adding on other parties and bits and pieces here, there, and everywhere in order to bolster their total count, but at the end of the day the undeniable fact is that in an In/Out referendum situation the electorate is split more or less 50/50 either way just as it was in 2016 when Leave won by a narrow margin.
Anybody who tries to claim that either side has got a significant lead over the other or that 'The country has changed it's mind' is ...well I refer to the new thread title :\