Dame Emma Thompson joins London protest

[celticdog]

Government (and the EU) claim they are cutting plastic to save the environment. If you believe that you'll believe anything. Neither governments nor the EU give a toss about the environment. Most of the plastic in the ocean is there because it's been dumped after being collected for recycling. (Recycling is a massive con, almost everything collected is burnt or dumped.) Did you really think that individuals threw all those plastic bottles into the sea? So why do governments and the EU demonise plastic? Easy, the oil is running out and plastic is made from oil. We passed peak oil some time ago. When the oil does run out we'll be back in the horse and buggy age.

[celticdog]

Oh I also enjoyed that sex scene with Emma Thompson and Jeff Goldblum in 'The Tall Guy'. You know the one where they have sex on the piano etc and she has a piece of toast stuck to her arse. She really should stick to acting.

[nick crisp]

Im sure ive said it before somewhere on here, the multi nationals in cahoots with govts will be reluctant to act more than they are presently until they can get at the reserves under the ice in the polar regions. Some major companies are already involved in exploring what has already been uncovered in Norway and north western Russia. Antarctica is already divided up into slices like a cake, and owned by the major nations

The easiest way to get at resources under the ice caps is for us to increase global warming until they melt.


Removing all waste plastics endangers the species of bacteria that thrives on plastic waste.


The best way way of reducing pollution is to reduce the human population. The best way to reduce the human population is to increase global warming, with its consequent climate change-induced catastrophes.


I'm all for allowing the return of 2 stroke motorcycles. Rang-a-dang-dang!


:crazy

[fazersharp]

The population is being controlled - the permanent government is using electromagnetic microwave radiation via mobile phone masts and wifi which causes cancer, along with a whole host of other diseases and a general degradation in the ability to learn and is killing the insects. Perfect when you want to control the population via the MSM pumping out only what the permanent gov want you to know via the BBC and sky falling over each other, sky -ocean rescue - bbc, blue planet and now not even bothering to wrap the lies around a turtle the bbc with a series on climate change which are all cover stories for the real killer.
The gov must be really pleased with their efforts to see that it is working that is why the cops were not ordered straight in as the gov wanted to test the results of the propaganda.
These idiots dancing in the street and posting it on facebook via mobile phone dont realize that the real environment killer is in their hands and that is only 4g wait until 5g kicks in.
The gov want every household to have a snooping/energy control/cancer machine installed (smart meter ) that produces non-ionizing radiation from the RF output. Interesting to notice that the adverts have changed tact from telling us it will save us money to now saying they will help save the environment. They are getting ever more desperate to get these installed, usually if the gov want yopu to do something - it aint going to be for my benefit. 
And the earth might be flat. 

[celticdog]

The population is being controlled - the permanent government is using electromagnetic microwave radiation via mobile phone masts and wifi which causes cancer, along with a whole host of other diseases and a general degradation in the ability to learn and is killing the insects. Perfect when you want to control the population via the MSM pumping out only what the permanent gov want you to know via the BBC and sky falling over each other, sky -ocean rescue - bbc, blue planet and now not even bothering to wrap the lies around a turtle the bbc with a series on climate change which are all cover stories for the real killer.
The gov must be really pleased with their efforts to see that it is working that is why the cops were not ordered straight in as the gov wanted to test the results of the propaganda.
These idiots dancing in the street and posting it on facebook via mobile phone dont realize that the real environment killer is in their hands and that is only 4g wait until 5g kicks in.
The gov want every household to have a snooping/energy control/cancer machine installed (smart meter ) that produces non-ionizing radiation from the RF output. Interesting to notice that the adverts have changed tact from telling us it will save us money to now saying they will help save the environment.
And the earth might be flat. 

There's only one way to escape them government rays Sharpy!

[vinnyb]

There're some mad buggers on this forum, aren't there? :lol

[Frosties]

[quote author=agricola link=topic=25180.msg296631#msg296631 date=1555689697]
Im sure ive said it before somewhere on here, the multi nationals in cahoots with govts will be reluctant to act more than they are presently until they can get at the reserves under the ice in the polar regions. Some major companies are already involved in exploring what has already been uncovered in Norway and north western Russia. Antarctica is already divided up into slices like a cake, and owned by the major nations

The easiest way to get at resources under the ice caps is for us to increase global warming until they melt.


Removing all waste plastics endangers the species of bacteria that thrives on plastic waste.


The best way way of reducing pollution is to reduce the human population. The best way to reduce the human population is to increase global warming, with its consequent climate change-induced catastrophes.


I'm all for allowing the return of 2 stroke motorcycles. Rang-a-dang-dang!


:crazy
[/quote]


Makes perfect sense to me......I'm in !


In addition, if China and India continues with polution, then respiratory disease and a typical lifespan of say 30 yrs will help to cull their population. All round winner  mokin

[His Dudeness]

The population is being controlled - the permanent government is using electromagnetic microwave radiation via mobile phone masts and wifi which causes cancer, along with a whole host of other diseases and a general degradation in the ability to learn and is killing the insects. Perfect when you want to control the population via the MSM pumping out only what the permanent gov want you to know via the BBC and sky falling over each other, sky -ocean rescue - bbc, blue planet and now not even bothering to wrap the lies around a turtle the bbc with a series on climate change which are all cover stories for the real killer.
The gov must be really pleased with their efforts to see that it is working that is why the cops were not ordered straight in as the gov wanted to test the results of the propaganda.
These idiots dancing in the street and posting it on facebook via mobile phone dont realize that the real environment killer is in their hands and that is only 4g wait until 5g kicks in.
The gov want every household to have a snooping/energy control/cancer machine installed (smart meter ) that produces non-ionizing radiation from the RF output. Interesting to notice that the adverts have changed tact from telling us it will save us money to now saying they will help save the environment. They are getting ever more desperate to get these installed, usually if the gov want yopu to do something - it aint going to be for my benefit. 
And the earth might be flat.

You're joking right? Because it's hard to tell if you are or not :lol The internet seems to be turning people into nutbags :lol

[agricola]

[size=1em]Government (and the EU) claim they are cutting plastic to save the environment. If you believe that you'll believe anything. Neither governments nor the EU give a toss about the environment. Most of the plastic in the ocean is there because it's been dumped after being collected for recycling. (Recycling is a massive con, almost everything collected is burnt or dumped.) Did you really think that individuals threw all those plastic bottles into the sea? So why do governments and the EU demonise plastic? Easy, the oil is running out and plastic is made from oil. We passed peak oil some time ago. When the oil does run out we'll be back in the horse and buggy age.[/size]

I always understood that plastics came about as a bye product of the fuel production. Ie, sooner than chuck it away, lets make something from it. Bit like pies, pasties, and burgers, making something from the bits left over :lol

[VNA]

The population is being controlled - the permanent government is using electromagnetic microwave radiation via mobile phone masts and wifi which causes cancer, along with a whole host of other diseases and a general degradation in the ability to learn and is killing the insects. Perfect when you want to control the population via the MSM pumping out only what the permanent gov want you to know via the BBC and

sky falling over each other, sky -ocean rescue - bbc, blue planet and now not even bothering to wrap the lies around a turtle the bbc with a series on climate change which are all cover stories for the real killer.
The gov must be really pleased with their efforts to see that it is working that is why the cops were not ordered straight in as the gov wanted to test the results of the propaganda.
These idiots dancing in the street and posting it on facebook via mobile phone dont realize that the real environment killer is in their hands and that is only 4g wait until 5g kicks in.
The gov want every household to have a snooping/energy control/cancer machine installed (smart meter ) that produces non-ionizing radiation from the RF output. Interesting to notice that the adverts have changed tact from telling us it will save us money to now saying they will help save the environment. They are getting ever more desperate to get these installed, usually if the gov want yopu to do something - it aint going to be for my benefit. 
And the earth might be flat. 

Foc me :lol  Nope it's not April the 1st.Though I hear the magic mushies are out early due to the mild winter.

[VNA]

 

It's primarily heavy industry and the dependence on coal for power in China, that is responsible for their emissions but that is only because so many of the population are dirt poor and probably don't even have mains electric but as they become wealthier and increase their spending on televisions, washing machines, cars and the other stuff that you buy as your finances improve and their carbon Footprint will increase accordingly and obviously their industry is going to have to step up to meet growing demand. Only the naïve would believe that it's because they're trying to save the planet. They still think rhino horn and tiger dick makes you virile FFS. Ninety five percent of the population have probably never heard of global warming and the other 5% are driving around in gas guzzlers and living the high life just like the super wealthy in every other country. China are the biggest market for luxury goods as well as poached wildlife parts. China's emissions and planetary destruction isn't coming down anytime soon.

Which surely is the reason why we should figure out how to reduce our emissions to a tiny fraction of what they are today.
   

[vinnyb]

 

It's primarily heavy industry and the dependence on coal for power in China, that is responsible for their emissions but that is only because so many of the population are dirt poor and probably don't even have mains electric but as they become wealthier and increase their spending on televisions, washing machines, cars and the other stuff that you buy as your finances improve and their carbon Footprint will increase accordingly and obviously their industry is going to have to step up to meet growing demand. Only the naïve would believe that it's because they're trying to save the planet. They still think rhino horn and tiger dick makes you virile FFS. Ninety five percent of the population have probably never heard of global warming and the other 5% are driving around in gas guzzlers and living the high life just like the super wealthy in every other country. China are the biggest market for luxury goods as well as poached wildlife parts. China's emissions and planetary destruction isn't coming down anytime soon.

Which surely is the reason why we should figure out how to reduce our emissions to a tiny fraction of what they are today.
 

  Absolutely but the UK could reduce emissions to zero and it would make, at best a tiny dent on World emissions. and still the focus is on emissions. Like if we can get those down everything's suddenly ok with the World.

[VNA]

Absolutely but the UK could reduce emissions to zero and it would make, at best a tiny dent on World emissions.

Which is exactly the direction we should be moving in.  There’s not really much choice, though we seem to be doing pretty well at denying and dodging the issue.
And of course, those who take a lead and develop the technologies required will reap the rewards.  It’s a no brainer.  But in the meatime………….

[vinnyb]

Suggestions on a postcard please....
  Global emissions are a symptom of the Human condition. However much we have, we want more. Some just want somewhere to live and something to eat, others want another super yacht or another Ferrari for their collection or another holiday cottage. Greed is feeding industry and industry is feeding greed. Those with the most, want the most and don't care about those who have less or what damage they do to their planet to get it. I would happily bet that those with their vast sums of wealth don't lose a moments sleep over the harm that they do in their quest for more. They live in their ivory towers, isolated from problems that affect the less well off.
  Solar panels, wind turbines, electric vehicles and the like are all very laudable but they just encourage guilt free consumption. The success of a nation is judged on it's GDP and whether it produced more this year than it did last year, if it didn't, it's failing, so the drive to make more and encourage people to buy more is increased, and then to make it cheaper so they can buy even more. Until the people in power and those with the means to actually make any kind of difference start setting the example, not just in this country but worldwide, and start caring about the planet, not just their bubble, we can drive less and recycle more and make sure we turn off the lights and turn down the heating and all the other stuff we're told we need to do as individuals but we are absolutely pissing into the wind because the sad fact is those who care can't make any significant difference and those who can make a significant difference don't care.

[VNA]

Suggestions on a postcard please....
  Global emissions are a symptom of the Human condition. However much we have, we want more. Some just want somewhere to live and something to eat, others want another super yacht or another Ferrari for their collection or another holiday cottage. Greed is feeding industry and industry is feeding greed. Those with the most, want the most and don't care about those who have less or what damage they do to their planet to get it. I would happily bet that those with their vast sums of wealth don't lose a moments sleep over the harm that they do in their quest for more. They live in their ivory towers, isolated from problems that affect the less well off.
  Solar panels, wind turbines, electric vehicles and the like are all very laudable but they just encourage guilt free consumption. The success of a nation is judged on it's GDP and whether it produced more this year than it did last year, if it didn't, it's failing, so the drive to make more and encourage people to buy more is increased, and then to make it cheaper so they can buy even more. Until the people in power and those with the means to actually make any kind of difference start setting the example, not just in this country but worldwide, and start caring about the planet, not just their bubble, we can drive less and recycle more and make sure we turn off the lights and turn down the heating and all the other stuff we're told we need to do as individuals but we are absolutely pissing into the wind because the sad fact is those who care can't make any significant difference and those who can make a significant difference don't care.

I don’t disagree with much of what you say vinnyb.  But the fact remains that what we are seeing is the beginning of the end. 
The interesting thing is, that if indeed the human race becomes extinct, it will be the first species to not only know it is about to be wiped out, but not only that, but to have had the means to prevent it’s extinction. 
The simple fact remains that global warming past 1.5 degrees C is preventable. 

[vinnyb]

But the fact also remains that it's going to be the poorest who have had the least impact and can do least to avoid it, because those with money and power will be able to go where they want and escape the choking pollution and poisoned watercourses and floods and landslides and droughts and wildfires, until it affects them directly and unavoidably they'll carry on making the right noises and doing as little as they can get away with.
  You may or may not be right about the 1.5degC increase being avoidable but..... 

[VNA]

[Dudeofrude]

The rises in temperature they quote just dont add up, like today for example was the hottest April 21st in Bangor in 95 years?
so 95 years ago when there weren't commercial planes, hardly anyone had a vehicle, no central heating etc etc yet it was almost as hot as now? Almost all of these heat records are from times before anyone had a carbon foot print

[agricola]

Wow. This is way better than the B-r-x-t thread now

[VNA]

The rises in temperature they quote just dont add up, like today for example was the hottest April 21st in Bangor in 95 years?
so 95 years ago when there weren't commercial planes, hardly anyone had a vehicle, no central heating etc etc yet it was almost as hot as now? Almost all of these heat records are from times before anyone had a carbon foot print

You are confusing weather, or weather patterns with global warming.