BREXIT

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Latest news. May offers to resign if they back her deal. Tories again putting their party before country.

[VNA]

It's all about the Tories.

[Grayo]

Tories again putting their party before country.

But all parties do that. As I've said before, all Politicians are thieves and liars. All Politicians are in it for their own personal gain. There is not one Party or Politician who really gives a flying fuck about the hard working man on the street as long as they are doing very nicely out of it. The usual case of "Fuck you Jack, I'm alright."

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Tories again putting their party before country.

But all parties do that. As I've said before, all Politicians are thieves and liars. All Politicians are in it for their own personal gain. There is not one Party or Politician who really gives a flying fuck about the hard working man on the street as long as they are doing very nicely out of it. The usual case of "Fuck you Jack, I'm alright."
[/quote] :agree Yes - so why on earth would someone want and extra layer of politicians within the EU 

[BBROWN1664]

Latest news. May offers to resign if they back her deal. Tories again putting their party before country.

Thats so she can say afterwards that it was nothing to do with her.

I read it that she was off if ANY further negotiations were needed so actually, not off it they accepted her deal.

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Yes - so why on earth would someone want and extra layer of politicians within the EU

Because they're a foc site better than the crap we currently have in the UK 

[VNA]

But all parties do that. As I've said before, all Politicians are thieves and liars. All Politicians are in it for their own personal gain. There is not one Party or Politician who really gives a flying fuck about the hard working man on the street as long as they are doing very nicely out of it. The usual case of "Fuck you Jack, I'm alright."

No, I can’t agree with that.


In recent times I believe the Lib Dems put country before party when they joined in coalition with the Conservatives.  I also believe that was a huge mistake for them and subsequently they have paid a price.


I am even prepared to accept that there are some, a few, misguided souls in the Tory party who actually care about the country and it’s people.
But on the whole the Tories exist to rule, and do whatever they can to rule, and rule to look after their own interests.  And yes they will put party first, they will always put themselves before anything else.


But most MP’s try to do their job, some of them well, some of them not so well.


And it goes without saying – well we elect them.



Obviously as a Scot it’s extremely frustrating to have a Tory government – there are few Tories in Scotland – and also to be suffering a BREXIT we never as a country voted for. 



But yeah when it comes to elections, if anybody asks me how to vote, I’ll tell them choose the best candidate, and don’t whatever you do vote Tory.  Never ever vote Tory.

[VNA]

Because they're a foc site better than the crap we currently have in the UK  [img alt=]http://foc-u.co.uk/Smileys/efocicon/smile.gif[/img]

27 countries that can reach agreement.
27 countries that are now trying to help us - though ironically, considering it is BREXIT, by setting the agenda in our parliament.
You couldn't make this up. 

[VNA]

People's vote defeated, but the smallest defeat of all options.
The Troies want to bring back May's deal.  But that had the biggest defeat in pariamentary history.  The ERG looks like it might now back it and bring others with them.  The DUP will not support it.  However the deal cannot, or should not be brought back for a third vote unchanged.
So the way forward - tonight looks like this.
2nd referednum - and the question is clearly;
May's Deal
or
Ditch BREXIT

[YamFazFan]

So what happens on Monday?. Do they have another go at this?

[VNA]

Not sure YamFazFan.
I think yes, they have another go at it.  But they need to ditch No Deal and Malt house.  Those were most heavily defeated.  So, and I’m guessing, it’s a process of elimination.
As for May’s deal.  I fear it could be brought back as these are exceptional circumstances.  But I hope that Bercow will stand firm.
Also, those who don’t want May’s deal, can now see other options that could get across the line.  So, if it does come back from the dead, they can see a way forward if they bury it for a third and final time.
What we can still be sure of, with a great degree of certainty, is that nobody really knows what will happen next.
Ah well, time to sit doon wi a dram, and see if Newsnight can enlighten me a wee bit.
At least there is some sort of very basic progress.

[VNA]

A lot of Troies are going to come in behind May's deal.  But hopefully not all.
The fact is they have lost control, they are not in government as we know it.They hate this - but they brought it upon themselves.

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[Grahamm]

So what happens on Monday?. Do they have another go at this?

I think (although I'm not certain) it will be a "Preferential Vote", so instead of just ticking "Aye" or "No" to a proposal, MPs rank them in order of 1st, 2nd, 3rd etc and the lowest one is eliminated.

The votes from those who put it in first place are then redistributed according to their second choice etc until one comes out on top.

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The man has no shame.....

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A spokesperson for number 10 trying to tell Bercow that May's deal has passed his test that it has significantly changed, because :
1. The leaving date has been put back
2. Something might change on the backstop


As we say down sarf 'They're having a larf!'  :lol

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[fazersharp]

So 8 ways to leave the EU and the idiots still can not come up with any ideas that will pass.

There must be more ways than that to leave the EU.

The problem is all inside your head, May said to me
The answer is easy if you take it Farage-ley
Rudd like to help you in your struggle to be free
There must be fifty ways to leave the EU

She said it's really not my Hammond to intrude
Further more I hope my meaning won't be lost or Chris-construed
So I repeat myself, at the risk of being Claude
There must be fifty ways to leave the EU 

Just slip out the back, Jean, make a new plan, Ann
Don't need to be coy, Gove, just listen to Mogg
Hop on the bus, Boris, don't need to discuss Tusk
Just drop off the key, Jeremy, and let us be free

She said it Grieve’s me so to see you in such pain
I wish there was something I could do to make you Vote again
I said, I appreciate that, then would you please explain about the fifty ways
She said, why don't we both just sleep on it tonight.
And I believe, in the Corbin you'll begin to see the light
And then she kissed me and I realized she probably was Raab
There must be fifty ways the EU

[YamFazFan]

:guitar :lol All your own work?

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Excellent work. What's the tune?