ULEZ and how it effects the Gen1:

[dazza]

Not yet, still waiting on Yamaha for the COC.
Going to email TFL again and get a more definitive answer as to the certainty for exemption but as far as I can see, once I get the conformity cert, it's in the bag.
Not ready to give up on the old girl yet, that's for certain.

[Ripsnortingvtwin]

some here , i have seen 2 other guys get older bikes passed so sure you get your done , i use mine to go to london each day so really hoping you get this

all the best and thanks 

[old son]

I've written to TFL and provided the figures for my 05 Gen1. I have asked them to confirm if its worth me paying £60 for the C of C. If they are only interested in NOx then we can all get exemption.

[dazza]

Probably too late now but I wouldn't provide them with any other figures other than the NOx.
As far as I'm aware, that's all they are going by.
Giving them too much information is IMO giving them other reasons to deny exemption.
But then it's not about the money ( I know this because they told me so)  :rolleyes so we should still be alright.

[old son]

But surely the CoC will include all of the emission readings?

[dazza]

I won't know till I receive one.
What figures did you give them and where did you get them from ?

[old son]

I won't know till I receive one.
What figures did you give them and where did you get them from ?

I gave then the CO and HC figures which came from Yamaha Customer Service.

[Fazerjon]

I hope it’s just the NOx figures they’re after then, or we could all be doomed......!!

[old son]

Extract from a letter I've just received from TFL after I supplied details of my CO and HC which were both higher than a Euro 3 engine.:


The motorcycles/mopeds need to achieve a NOx of equal or below 0.15 (Euro 3) to be ULEZ compliant.
Therefore, we would require a copy of your vehicle's Conformity Certificate along with a copy of your vehicle registration document (V5c) in order for us to confirm the compliance status of your vehicle.


It is still very positive. I think I'll apply for the C of C and see how it goes.

[b1k3rdude]

So looks like my bandit is also eligible for a CoC, but in typical Suzuki Style they are ripping us off for the privilege - https://bikes.suzuki.co.uk/contact-us/ce...onformity/  £95 and its a bank transfer so if they do a runner with your money there isnt much you can do about it.

[old son]

Why would Suzuki do a runner with your money? I would have thought you would have been pleased, you might not need to upgrade to a post 2007 now?

[mtread]

Putting it into context, with the ULEZ charge at £12.50 a day, £60 is a week's worth and £95 is a week and a half. So with a CoC you'd be in profit pretty quickly.

[dazza]

Is anyone else having trouble emailing TFL ?
I've had about 7 emails failed to send today.
I'm beginning to think that they've turned off their email communication ability due to the amount of correspondence.

[Ripsnortingvtwin]

do hope not dazza , time is getting short now so hope to here you have good news soon !

[dazza]

Received my COC in the post today and emailed it straight away to TFL along with previous copies of emails they have failed to respond to.
Their customer service is appalling and if I don't get a reply to producing the certificate I'm going to lodge a formal complaint and deliver it by hand to their offices in StJames Park.
Anyway, as far as I'm concerned, now I have the certificate it conforms to the NOx limit and should be exempt.


The bad news is that due to no response from them regarding getting the whole model exempted and the fact that each certificate is bike specific. It appears that this has got to be done on an individual basis.


The good news is, it's possible and can be done.

[old son]

Thanks Dazza, I am about three weeks behind you. I have spoken to my company and as I will be saving them £12.50 per day on charges, they have agreed to pay for the C of C. I have two Fazers so two C of C's required.

[Ripsnortingvtwin]

well thats sad news looks like i need to get on with mine now if this is the case ??? dazza ??

[dazza]

Just a word of advice to everyone considering this course of action..DONT PAY YAMAHA any money yet !


TFL's latest communication with me has only just mentioned  Euro 3 compliance and given me a link which includes the CO as well as the NOx.
If I had had this information sooner it may have saved me £60.




There is a good chance that it may be rejected as the CO is not compliant.


Pretty pissed off to be honest seeing as TFL have been very slow to reply and give me all the information I required up until now.
They have given me the absolute impression that it was the harmful  NOx that was the all important factor.


My advice is....Lets see what happens before you pay for your certificate of conformity from Yamaha.

[mtread]

That's nonsense isn't it. Because CO2 isn't a pollutant and doesn't cause breathing problems.

[dazza]

That's nonsense isn't it. Because CO2 isn't a pollutant and doesn't cause breathing problems.

Trouble is, it's not CO2, it's CO which I believe is Carbon monoxide.
So yes, it may well get rejected as carbon monoxide is a harmful gas.
My gripe is that up until now, TFL have only mentioned NOx


A typical case of moving the goalposts  :wall


Still, even if my attempt fails....at least I tried.
It's  the only way to look at it.


In the meantime, I don't want anyone else to waste their money paying Yamaha for a COC.