Something that still puzzles me, apparently if you have a kid abroad then that child remains British by descent if their parents are British.
If they happen to stay there then if that kid has a kid then it doesn't carry down another generation, it would become a national of that particular country.
This girl was born here, but her parents are Bangladeshi, so I don't get how Bangladesh can refuse her?
More people are born because of alcohol than will ever die from it.
[color=rgb(64, 64, 64)]Under the Bangladeshi "blood line" law, Bangladeshi nationality and citizenship lapse when a person reaches the age of 21, unless they make active efforts to retain it.[/color]
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[color=rgb(64, 64, 64)][/size]She's now 19, so unless she herself actively persues it, it won't apply.[/color]
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[color=rgb(64, 64, 64)][/size]So Javid will be making her stateless. Against international law. [/color]
(21-02-19, 06:05 PM)mtread link Wrote: [color=rgb(64, 64, 64)]Under the Bangladeshi "blood line" law, Bangladeshi nationality and citizenship lapse when a person reaches the age of 21, unless they make active efforts to retain it.[/color]
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[color=rgb(64, 64, 64)][/size]She's now 19, so unless she herself actively persues it, it won't apply.[/color]
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[color=rgb(64, 64, 64)][/size]So Javid will be making her stateless. Against international law. [/color]
No, she is able to get the Bangladeshi passport if she applies so Javid has not made her stateless. If Bangladesh now refuse then its BAngladesh that will be making here stateless. If she leaves it too long and misses her 21st birthday cut-off, she has done it herself.
From what is being reported she has never been to Bangladesh. She was born in the UK. She grew up in the UK. She is, like it or not, British. She is a British citizen. She is not a Bangladeshi citizen.
Making a person stateless is against international law.
Javid is trying to make her stateless knowing full well that what is is doing is not legal. He will lose this.
It is political posturing. Trumpism. Don’t be taken in.
(21-02-19, 08:01 PM)VNA link Wrote: Making a person stateless is against international law.
So is joining a terrorist organisation, blowing innocent women and children up in Manchester, beheading unbelievers, throwing homosexuals off of buildings and grooming and raping 1300 underage children in Rotherham.
If you're that outraged about her treatment, offer to put her up in your house.
You can let her invite all her delightful clan into your home and spend the evenings spouting your left wing, traitorous spiel all night long.
Quote:If you're that outraged about her treatment, offer to put her up in your house.
I expect the law of the land to be upheld. And I do believe it will.
At the end of the day I cannot see how Sajid Javid can legally do what he is doing. I am pretty sure that this will be overturned, and why – dead simple because that’s the law.
And try to see it from the Kurdish and Syrian point of view. To them Shamima is a foreign national who has supported ISIS whom have wreaked absolute hell and havoc in their country.
Finally, if numerous countries around the globe do not accept responsibility for their citizens in Syria, well, they won’t rot in hell, but will most likely be recycled into the jihadi cause only to pop up elsewhere.
Nothing to do with mob rule VNA think it's more to do with protecting our kids and grand kids. But I think you are right she is a British citizen and as such has the right to return here and can't be made stateless. The laws the law and if we choose who we apply it too we will all be losers, and no I don't want her back but if she has the right to return then like it or not she must be allowed to and put before the courts.
Quote:Nothing to do with mob rule VNA think it's more to do with protecting our kids and grand kids. But I think you are right she is a British citizen and as such has the right to return here and can't be made stateless. The laws the law and if we choose who we apply it too we will all be losers, and no I don't want her back but if she has the right to return then like it or not she must be allowed to and put before the courts.
Absolutely agree with you Steve.
Though in terms of protecting our youth it puzzles me that nobody is concerned about Saudi and our other ME allies. Saudi sells us shit loads of oil, we also happen to sell them a shit load of arms which they have recently used extensively and indiscriminately in Yemen. But most worrying of all if you follow the cash it was Saudi along with certain other ME allies that funded ISIS.
The other issue is this so called ‘radicalisation’ that is occurring in some of our Muslim communities. We have sat back and allowed the Saudi’s to spread their sick disgusting Wahhabist murderous ideology around the globe. They have spent a small, sorry a large fortune right across Europe building mosques and installing their own Saudi Wahhabist Iman’s in them.
So really, I don’t give a shit about Shamina Begum, she’s just a stupid young woman taken in by Saudi funded ideology that we have happily financed and encouraged.
I don't understand why people arn't angry about that.
So Fazersharp was right. You really do agree with Tommy Robinson as he is as outraged as you about the Saudis and Establishments involvement in the radicalisation of Britain.
Well done, you've come round and seen sense.
21-02-19, 10:38 PM (This post was last modified: 21-02-19, 10:53 PM by fazersharp.)
(21-02-19, 10:13 PM)VNA link Wrote: Though in terms of protecting our youth it puzzles me that nobody is concerned about Saudi and our other ME allies. Saudi sells us shit loads of oil, we also happen to sell them a shit load of arms which they have recently used extensively and indiscriminately in Yemen. But most worrying of all if you follow the cash it was Saudi along with certain other ME allies that funded ISIS.
The other issue is this so called ‘radicalisation’ that is occurring in some of our Muslim communities. We have sat back and allowed the Saudi’s to spread their sick disgusting Wahhabist murderous ideology around the globe. They have spent a small, sorry a large fortune right across Europe building mosques and installing their own Saudi Wahhabist Iman’s in them.
So really, I don’t give a shit about Shamina Begum, she’s just a stupid young woman taken in by Saudi funded ideology that we have happily financed and encouraged.
I don't understand why people arn't angry about that.
Many would agree with you and so does Tommy Robbo. Be careful not to choke on your socialist champagne. :pokefun Error 404 (Not Found)!!1
I don't do rain or threat there of. dry rider only with no shame.
21-02-19, 10:45 PM (This post was last modified: 22-02-19, 11:04 PM by Decoke Dave.)
(21-02-19, 08:17 PM)dazza link Wrote: [quote author=VNA link=topic=24947.msg293033#msg293033 date=1550775683]
Making a person stateless is against international law.
So is joining a terrorist organisation, blowing innocent women and children up in Manchester, beheading unbelievers, throwing homosexuals off of buildings and grooming and raping 1300 underage children in Rotherham.
If you're that outraged about her treatment, offer to put her up in your house.
You can let her invite all her delightful clan into your home and spend the evenings spouting your left wing, traitorous spiel all night long.
[/quote].......... A bit harsh I think!.........HELL NO. FUCK IT! I COULD NOT AGREE MORE!!!!!!!!!!!!! And so do dozens of people where I work! P.S. Five own Fazer owners working here !
If at first you don't succeed, pull your foreskin ower yer heid!
(21-02-19, 09:10 PM)steve 10562cc link Wrote: Nothing to do with mob rule VNA think it's more to do with protecting our kids and grand kids. But I think you are right she is a British citizen and as such has the right to return here and can't be made stateless. The laws the law and if we choose who we apply it too we will all be losers, and no I don't want her back but if she has the right to return then like it or not she must be allowed to and put before the courts.
that is the sad truth of it fellers. VNAs right, its the law, not his personal opinion. We need the law changing, without a doubt, but until it does (and realistically it wont) the law is the law, no matter how much it sticks in yours(and mines) craw.
Quote:it's more to do with protecting our kids and grand kids
Forget Shamina Begum, she's a nobody. Get a grip! She'll come back to the UK, she will be detained, questioned and if she has committed crimes she will be put on trial.
The threat comes from the Saudi state that we suck up to.
(21-02-19, 11:03 PM)VNA link Wrote: The threat comes from the Saudi state that we suck up to.
That's the second time tonight.
You really should get to know Tommy a bit better.
You'll get on like a house on fire with your identical views on the Saudis.
Are you going to Manchester to watch him expose Panorama ?
Bet you are, you're starting to sound like you've been well converted. :lol
22-02-19, 12:30 AM (This post was last modified: 22-02-19, 12:44 AM by fazersharp.)
fascist, white supremacist, racist, xenophobic, little focing cnut (fazersharp changed the wording here )
These are all the words that VNA has used to describe Tommy -R and yet he agrees with him.
Me - I have never said I agree with anything he does or says but VNA clearly agrees with him.
I don't do rain or threat there of. dry rider only with no shame.
