Quote:I'd have LOVED to have seen your reaction when you heard the Honda statement this morning. I bet it was priceless!. Did the air turn a subtle shade of blue? [img alt=:lol]http://foc-u.co.uk/Smileys/efocicon/lol.gif[/img] [img alt=:lol]http://foc-u.co.uk/Smileys/efocicon/lol.gif[/img] [img alt=:lol]http://foc-u.co.uk/Smileys/efocicon/lol.gif[/img]
Hmmm, I wonder what has changed.
Keeping kidding yourself if you want.
Quote:no pain, no gain.. [img alt= ]http://foc-u.co.uk/Smileys/efocicon/smile.gif[/img]
The pain is Ogri as Proffessor Patrick Minford pointed out, the almost total destruction of British manufactuering. Considerable hardship for the working classes.
The gain is in city institutions as the UK becomes a tax free haven for the rich.
Quote: There is one consolation for Labour though. They might have lost 7 MP's, but at least they've got Derek Hatton back
Apparently there are so many ex UKIP members joining local Conservative parties, the Tories are being known as 'Bluekip'. Objective to oust Remainer and Soft Brexit Tories. Expect the Tories to lose MPs soon, especially as this shit storm continues to run.
(19-02-19, 11:07 PM)mtread link Wrote: Quote: There is one consolation for Labour though. They might have lost 7 MP's, but at least they've got Derek Hatton back
Apparently there are so many ex UKIP members joining local Conservative parties, the Tories are being known as 'Bluekip'. Objective to oust Remainer and Soft Brexit Tories. Expect the Tories to lose MPs soon, especially as this shit storm continues to run. Make that 8. Another one's gone. She's sick of the anti-semitism that's rife in Labour apparently.
Truly 'The Nasty Party' now 
To join the 'funny tinge' party!
The devil made me do it!
(20-02-19, 10:53 AM)john roche link Wrote: To join the 'funny tinge' party!
Yeah I couldn't believe that one came out with such a thing!.
But remember she was elected a Labour MP, supporting the Labour manifesto. She's only been in the independent group a few days. Why are Labour so full of hate
The most reasonable thing to do for the leaving MPS is to stand down and trigger a by election, after all, they used the party to become MPs. However, they all realise that only rarely do independent candidates get elected in the UK. Most , if not all, would fall into that category. They are simply hanging onto the gravy train. If all of this leads to some sort of realignment in the political organisation of the nation, that may be no bad thing, since the present system is outdated and corrupted
(20-02-19, 11:54 AM)agricola link Wrote: The most reasonable thing to do for the leaving MPS is to stand down and trigger a by election, after all, they used the party to become MPs. However, they all realise that only rarely do independent candidates get elected in the UK. Most , if not all, would fall into that category. They are simply hanging onto the gravy train. If all of this leads to some sort of realignment in the political organisation of the nation, that may be no bad thing, since the present system is outdated and corrupted
Looks like three Tories have joined them. As Agricola says they are just hanging onto that gravy train, who wouldn't want to hang onto that £77,000 salary and expense account :lol
Quote:She's sick of the anti-semitism that's rife in Labour apparently.Truly 'The Nasty Party' now
Compared with a Government that can revoke ISIS girl's citizenship in five minutes but can't give it to Windrush immigrants who have been here 50 years. Denying one of cancer treatment because he had lost the papers proving he came here as a child. The Tories will always be the Nasty Party.
I see also 3 Tories have left this morning suggesting the government has been taken over by UKIP. Not the One Nation Conservatives May promised eh? :rolleyes
Some friends heading over to France and Spain after March, have been told :
They'll need an International Driving Permit
By their insurance company that they'll need a Green Card
By a company in France running off road events that they may have to cancel as their insurance won't cover non EU citizens
Welcome to the real Brexit Britain :\ [size=78%] [/size]
20-02-19, 05:31 PM
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(20-02-19, 07:12 AM)YamFazFan link Wrote: Make that 8. Another one's gone. She's sick of the anti-semitism that's rife in Labour apparently.
Truly 'The Nasty Party' now Cambridge Dictionary give two meanings for anti-semitism:In UK English anti-semitism: the strong dislike or cruel and unfair treatment of Jewish people.
In American English
anti-semitism: hate or strong dislike of Jews, or actions that express hate or dislike of Jews
I did not think the Labour Party being a left wing were anti Jews.
Racist maybe, but anti Semitic unlikely :lol
Just another excuse to break away. :eek
Odd isnt it, how members from the 2 major parties can now join the same independent party. One suspects that the ex labour people were always free market capitalists anyway, and sat uncomfortably in the labour group. Blairites i reckon. Good riddance. All Remoaners.
20-02-19, 07:31 PM
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yup. especially that godawful soubry woman..
btw
I think That old Blairite thing of just keep denyin it no matter how much the evidence is wearing pretty thin now
But Jeremy Corbyn is an anti seminite, thereby a racist
no hes not
hes an ira sympaphiser
no hes not
He has expressed sympathy with other terrorist groups too
no he hasn't
Hes a remainer
no hes not
a leaver then
nope
The labour party are the real nasty party
no their not.
right... :lol :lol :lol
Quote: Odd isnt it, how members from the 2 major parties can now join the same independent party. One suspects that the ex labour people were always free market capitalists anyway, and sat uncomfortably in the labour group. Blairites i reckon. Good riddance. All Remoaners.
Just on a technicality it's not a party.... yet
What I wasn't aware was that there were a bunch of undercover socialists in the Conservative party. Always uncomfortable with the Hostile Environment May and now Javid enjoy.
Seriously, both major parties have lurched to the right and left. The ERG and DUP are the Tory's Momentum.
Perhaps this is just what we need, an end to confrontational politics.
Oh and great they are all Remainers. No Brexshiteers :lol
(20-02-19, 08:16 PM)mtread link Wrote: What I wasn't aware was that there were a bunch of undercover socialists in the Conservative party. Yes it's quite incredible what passes some people by. For example, unfazed wasn't aware of the anti-Semitism in the Labour Party
3 of the Labour MP's who are part of the new independent party....
" Anti-Semitism is rife and tolerated"
"Labour is riddled with anti-Semitism"
"I cannot remain in a party that I have come to the conclusion is institutionally anti-Semitic"
Why is it called anti-Semitism IT JUST PLAIN RACISM AGAINST JEWISH PEOPLE lets call it what it is and non of us should put up with RACISM.
20-02-19, 08:48 PM
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Quote: But Jeremy Corbyn is an anti seminite, thereby a racistno hes nothes an ira sympaphiserno hes notHe has expressed sympathy with other terrorist groups toono he hasn't
Just to flip the coin over.....
May is actually supported by a party which includes UDA terrorists
The Tories supported apartheid in South Africa and wanted Nelson Mandela hanged...... as a 'terrorist'
The Conservative party is riddled with Islamaphobia
So May and her party are not squeaky clean. We can all point the finger when it suits us.
The hard left spend their whole lives finger pointing. Consumed by hatred and chippyness (is that a word?..... It is now :lol )
A lot of them remind me of Rick from The Young Ones, but a version of him that aged and never really grew up. That twerp that door stepped Jacob rees-mogg is the PERFECT example. What a twat :rolleyes
Quote: The hard left spend their whole lives finger pointing. Consumed by hatred and chippyness
You could be describing the hard right (not sure about chippyness though).
The ones that doorstepped Anna Soubry were..... frightening (and now prosecuted) 
20-02-19, 10:10 PM
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Quote:The Tories supported apartheid in South Africa and wanted Nelson Mandela hanged...... as a 'terrorist'
Whilst Corbyn was arrested at anti-apartheid protests.
Quote:Yes it's quite incredible what passes some people by. For example, unfazed wasn't aware of the anti-Semitism in the Labour Party
3 of the Labour MP's who are part of the new independent party....
" Anti-Semitism is rife and tolerated"
"Labour is riddled with anti-Semitism"
"I cannot remain in a party that I have come to the conclusion is institutionally anti-Semitic"
And no doubt like most others they can't come up with any credible evidence of such ‘anti-Semitism'.
The truth is that those sympathetic to Israel, for example pretty much all Tories, are up in arms at the thought of, and for the first time, a British government highly critical of the apartheid racist state of Israel. That is what it is about. The Labour party is rightly riddled with MP’s and members critical of Israel and supportive of Palestine, but the Labour party is not riddled with ‘anti-Semitism’.
Ask for the evidence of 'anti-semitism' and you will find little or none. (just updated that to make it clearer VNA)
And no doubt like most others they can't come up with any credible evidence of such ‘anti-Semitism'.
The truth is that those sympathetic to Israel, for example pretty much all Tories, are up in arms at the thought of, and for the first time, a British government highly critical of the apartheid racist state of Israel. That is what it is about. The Labour party is rightly riddled with MP’s and members critical of Israel and supportive of Palestine, but the Labour party is not riddled with ‘anti-Semitism’.
Ask for the evidence and you will find little or none.
Fair point
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