BREXIT

[YamFazFan]

O and 'not binding' - that was also the 2016 referendum wasn't it 

Have you tried writing to your MP about it?.


That may be a good place to start

[Oldgit]

The Labour party is full of Champagne Socialists--don't do as I do--do as we say--Foc off.

[VNA]

The 'stupid woman' is only concerned with keeping the Tory party together, and couldn't give a shit about what happens to the country

Somebody else did that before her.  David Cameron or somebody?

That comment right there....So a majority vote suits you now :rolleyes

The Westminster parliament is a majority parliament.  The make up of the parliament does not directly relate to the how the public voted in a general election.  That a government cannot get it’s business through is most unusual.  And this government holds the record for the biggest defeat in the history of the parliament.  :rolleyes

[VNA]

I like champagne socialism Champagne Socialism = champagne for the many
Champagne Conservativism = this champagne is for me only

Yes indeed.  Champagne for all, breakfast, lunch, dinner and perhaps a few in the evening too.  I’m all for it.

[mtread]

Champagne Socialism most definitely isn't Champagne for the many.
It refers to a section of the middle class who outwardly advocate socialist ideals whilst not practicing it in any way, shape or form themselves. Their Champagne isn't for sharing. Another term for them would be hypocrites.

I know what it refers to....... by people who don't understand socialism 
Anyway having just been to a Wetherspoons, it's apparently all going to be replaced by Australian sparkling chardonnay. So everyone's in the shit  :o

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[darrsi]

That comment right there....So a majority vote suits you now

Yep, if you admit 52% is 'hardly' a majority  :b

I've never known a 52% minority before?
And if you happened to be doing an Italian Job and end up in a coach hanging over the side of a cliff, i think that extra 4% would suddenly really count.  :lol

[mtread]

I've never known a 52% minority before?

Indeed. Like the majority of MPs who voted out No Deal, which needs to be respected 

[ogri48]

im afraid I have no respect for any MPs whatsoever, but then again they very obviously  feel exactly the same about me to be fair..

[fazersharp]

Well that is exactly the attitude of the EU to all the included states so long as they are not Germany or France. Thank you for posting.

[YamFazFan]

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Well that is exactly the attitude of the EU to all the included states so long as they are not Germany or France. Thank you for posting.
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Yeah I was thinking that succinctly sums up both the EU and Junckers. Thanks. Great cartoon that :thumbup

[VNA]

So, it looks like May has called Barnier bluff.
Problem is he wasn't bluffing. :lol
One day or so into this re-negotiating fortnight and it looks to be over.

[YamFazFan]

Here's the EU and the Remainers preferred outcomes...


1) Brexit reversed and the UK remains in the EU, suitably humbled and humiliated.


2) The UK leaves under the worst possible terms and the economy suffers maximum damage as punishment and retribution for having the audacity to leave.


3) Err thats it :rolleyes

[VNA]

Here's the EU and the Remainers preferred outcomes...

1) Brexit reversed and the UK remains in the EU, suitably humbled and humiliated. 2) The UK leaves under the worst possible terms and the economy suffers maximum damage as punishment and retribution for having the audacity to leave.
3) Err thats it :rolleyes

Right now, a NO DEAL BREXIT is still a possibility.  The Tory government is still trying to run the clock down.  The EU single market, as you know, accounts for 25% of global GDP, we are members of that market and enjoy quota free, tariff free trade with the 27 other countries in the EU as if we were all one country.


In the event of a NO DEAL BREXIT we will exit the single market.  We will overnight become a third-party country.  All goods crossing between us and the EU will have to have the appropriate customs paperwork, taxes and tariffs will have to be paid.  Our currency, the pound will collapse, and our economy will nose dive.  It is simply the reality of a NO DEAL BREXIT.



Quite as to how, any of that, is somehow the fault of those who voted against such self-harm and mayhem, is frankly, absolutely and utterly beyond me.


And then there is the nightmare of the Irish border.


You want a NO DEAL border YamFazFan.  This is what you want.  So perhaps you can tell us how the border between the UK and the EU will be policed in Ireland?  I’d love to know.


Maybe what you are trying to tell us, or admitting to, is that reality is the fault of us REMAINERS, and it is our fault that we aren’t able to deliver you over to the cloud cuckoo land in which all – dunno what you want but know how to get it – BREXITEERS desperately want to be transposed to.

[YamFazFan]

I don't want No Deal. I want them to agree a deal. But the  EU are being deliberately awkward and uncompromising in helping the UK to achieve that.


They're hoping that all the palatable and workable options are closed off and that remaining is all that's left.