BREXIT

[VNA]

[YamFazFan]

And youse wonder why some of us who want to stay are just a bit pissed off :lol

If I was a Remainer I'd be chuffed to bits with how things are going at the moment :rolleyes

[fazersharp]

I wonder what would happen if because of apathy and there is a low turn out and 10 million vote to stay and 9 million vote to leave. That would mean the 10 million to stay has over ridden the 17 million who wanted to leave.   

[fazersharp]

Not one BREXITEER foccer has come up with one single good reason for leaving the EU.

How about telling us a good reason why scotland should leave the UK

[VNA]

How about telling us a good reason why scotland should leave the UK

No more Tory governments.  =    No BREXIT.

Don't forget that in 2014 we were told by Better Together, that in order to guarantee (GUARANTEE) REMAINING in the EU that Scots must vote NO to independence.

I believe that was a major deciding factor for many.

Now we’ve got BREXIT.  We were given a guarantee by the Westminster parties that this would never happen.

[mtread]

I don't recall any talk of 'deals' when we voted to leave the EU in the 2016 referendum. I assumed we would just come out and that's it.

And there you have exactly summed up the current problem. The box on the paper said 'Leave'. It should have said 'Leave and then what?' It certainly didn't say 'Leave with no deal' whatever people's assumptions are now. I distinctly remember the Leave campaigns making a big point that it would be 'easy to do a trade deal with the EU once we have left'. Talk of a 'Norway style arrangement' and that the EU would be begging us for a deal.


Remainers all know exactly what they want 


So here we all are.......  In a mess.

[YamFazFan]

I wonder what would happen if because of apathy and there is a low turn out and 10 million vote to stay and 9 million vote to leave. That would mean the 10 million to stay has over ridden the 17 million who wanted to leave. 

They'd come out with all this guff about how the original result was invalid because 'Leave didn't know what they were voting for' and how the new result is valid.


Oh hang on, that's what they're already trying to say :rolleyes

[VNA]

I don't recall any talk of 'deals' when we voted to leave the EU in the 2016 referendum. I assumed we would just come out and that's it.

Yup, people actually thought the next day we had left the EU.

They'd come out with all this guff about how the original result was invalid because 'Leave didn't know what they were voting for'

Hmmmm.

[fazersharp]

So VNA wants scotland to leave the UK because a politician tricked his fellow scots to vote to stay.  :rolleyes 

[mtread]

Here are some of the quotes from the Vote Leave campaign prior to the referendum :

''[color=rgb(41, 41, 41)]There is a European free trade zone from Iceland to the Russian border and we will be part of it… Britain will have access to the Single Market after we vote leave…''[/color]
[color=rgb(41, 41, 41)]“It will be possible to negotiate a new settlement with the EU, including a UK-EU free trade deal, by the next general election in May 2020''[/color]
[color=rgb(41, 41, 41)]''[/color][color=rgb(41, 41, 41)]There will be no change to the border between Northern Ireland and the Republic''[/color]
[color=rgb(41, 41, 41)][/color]
[color=rgb(41, 41, 41)]And finally from Michael Gove  ''I[/color][color=rgb(41, 41, 41)]f we vote to leave then I think the union will be stronger…  I think when we vote to leave it will be clear that having voted to leave one union the last thing people in Scotland wanted to do is to break up another.”[/color]
[color=rgb(41, 41, 41)][/color]
[color=rgb(41, 41, 41)]So that's what you all voted for, and now you're complaining? [/color]

[VNA]

So VNA wants scotland to leave the UK because a politician tricked his fellow scots to vote to stay.  [img alt=:rolleyes]http://foc-u.co.uk/Smileys/efocicon/rolleyes.gif[/img] 

I voted YES in 2014 because of a lifetime of governments we in Scotland did not vote for.
I voted YES becuase I've seen the impact of decades of neo liberal politics.
I voted YES becuase I wanted Scotland to be always have membership of the EU.

[fazersharp]

So VNA wants scotland to leave the UK because a politician tricked his fellow scots to vote to stay.  [img alt=:rolleyes]http://foc-u.co.uk/Smileys/efocicon/rolleyes.gif[/img] 

I voted YES in 2014 because of a lifetime of governments we in Scotland did not vote for.
I voted YES becuase I've seen the impact of decades of neo liberal politics.
I voted YES becuase I wanted Scotland to be always have membership of the EU.

Because of your one track mind and xenophobia you cannot see the similarities of your reasons to leave the UK and that of the leave the EU side.
One thing though who told you that a no vote would guarantee that you remained in the EU.The president of the European Commission, Jose Manuel Barroso at the time said: "If one part of a country wants to become an independent state, of course as an independent state it has to apply for European membership according to the rules - that is obvious."

[YamFazFan]

I voted YES in 2014 because of a lifetime of governments we in Scotland did not vote for.

I voted Leave in 2016 because of what feels like a lifetime of Junckers we in the EU didn't vote for.

[VNA]

Because of your one track mind and xenophobia you cannot see the similarities of your reasons to leave the UK and that of the leave the EU side.

No I can't.  But that is probably because there are none.

One thing though who told you that a no vote would guarantee that you remained in the EU.The president of the European Commission, Jose Manuel Barroso at the time said: "If one part of a country wants to become an independent state, of course as an independent state it has to apply for European membership according to the rules - that is obvious."

Yes Better Together.  The opinion Jose Manuel Barroso and a small number of others was used to try persaude Scots to vote NO.

[VNA]

[fazersharp]

Because of your one track mind and xenophobia you cannot see the similarities of your reasons to leave the UK and that of the leave the EU side.

No I can't.  But that is probably because there are none.

One thing though who told you that a no vote would guarantee that you remained in the EU.The president of the European Commission, Jose Manuel Barroso at the time said: "If one part of a country wants to become an independent state, of course as an independent state it has to apply for European membership according to the rules - that is obvious."

Yes Better Together.  The opinion Jose Manuel Barroso and a small number of others was used to try persaude Scots to vote NO.

OPINION  :eek :rolleyes :rolleyes of the The president of the European Commission --- him you mean.

But that is probably because there are none.

Proof that you are totally blinded by your own xenophobia.
I bet you wish you had your own Tommy (Robertson ) to fight for scotland.
Just go ahead and post a few cartoons and it will all be ok

[YamFazFan]

Government to let burglars go free?. They already do. That's not anything new.

[agricola]

[quote author=VNA link=topic=24678.msg291019#msg291019 date=1548019791]

Because of your one track mind and xenophobia you cannot see the similarities of your reasons to leave the UK and that of the leave the EU side.

No I can't.  But that is probably because there are none.

One thing though who told you that a no vote would guarantee that you remained in the EU.The president of the European Commission, Jose Manuel Barroso at the time said: "If one part of a country wants to become an independent state, of course as an independent state it has to apply for European membership according to the rules - that is obvious."

Yes Better Together.  The opinion Jose Manuel Barroso and a small number of others was used to try persaude Scots to vote NO.

OPINION  :eek :rolleyes :rolleyes of the The president of the European Commission --- him you mean.

But that is probably because there are none.

Proof that you are totally blinded by your own xenophobia.
I bet you wish you had your own Tommy (Robertson ) to fight for scotland.
Just go ahead and post a few cartoons and it will all be ok
[/quote]


I'll have you know his proper title is HIS EXCELLENCY, THE PRESIDENT OF THE EUROPEAN UNION. I kid you not

[VNA]

[celticdog]

I'll have you know his proper title is HIS EXCELLENCY, THE PRESIDENT OF THE EUROPEAN UNION. I kid you not