BREXIT

[dazza]

Oh.........Well have you had a word with yourself then about what you can and can't talk about ? [img alt=:lol]http://foc-u.co.uk/Smileys/efocicon/lol.gif[/img]

Dammed if I do, dammed if I don’t.  Can’t win with you Dazza :lol

I'll leave you with this one seeing as you mentioned both subjects....Enjoy, I know you're a massive fan.  :b




https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_f...2192461788

[fazersharp]

And of course not one anti-eu foccer here can name one piece of EU legislation (that legislation that, so we are told, impacts on every aspect of our life!) that has a negative impact on them – oh sorry other than one foccer doesnae like daylight running lamps, and um, well foc me I can’t remember the other. 

You asked for one EU legislation and I gave you one. I chose that one because this is a biking forum and its one that particularly impacts on bikers in a negative way.

[VNA]

Quote from: VNA on Today at 07:23:09 PM<blockquote>
And of course not one anti-eu foccer here can name one piece of EU legislation (that legislation that, so we are told, impacts on every aspect of our life!) that has a negative impact on them – oh sorry other than one foccer doesnae like daylight running lamps, and um, well foc me I can’t remember the other. 

</blockquote>You asked for one EU legislation and I gave you one. I chose that one because this is a biking forum and its one that particularly impacts on bikers in a negative way.

Ah I remember now;
Foc-u BREXITEER reasons for leaving the EU so far.
1.      Daylight running lamps
2.      Graded Bananas
3.      Dazza’a Great Grandfather
4.      Cheap and nasty food and drink imports

:eek

   

[YamFazFan]

A couple of additions to that list...


The end of new 2-stroke motorcycles and the banning of certain types of domestic light bulbs that result in people having to shell out for the extra expense of new fittings/lamps.

[fazersharp]

Lower wattage vacuum cleaners-already done and next on the hit list is hand held tools power and loads more normal household appliances like kettles, toasters, hairdryers lawnmowers under the EU's ecodesign directive outlawing high-wattage devices.

[YamFazFan]

...almost forgot the soon to be introduced E10 fuel. There's another one

[fazersharp]

Anyway I don't care if its 1 or 1,000 the point is that it has been imposed by a 3rd party.

Yet surely 50 pages in we all know that the EU does not impose laws on any countries.

And using semantics to differentiate between a law and a legislation that you have to abide by is just childish and sounds like desperation.

[unfazed]

[img alt=https://scontent-dub4-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/46960635_3520785361271731_3343978888609923072_n.jpg?_nc_cat=105&_nc_ht=scontent-dub4-1.xx&oh=ca8a97c594e88d7acb506db22c70e80e&oe=5CC40A6F]https://scontent-dub4-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/46960635_3520785361271731_3343978888609923072_n.jpg?_nc_cat=105&_nc_ht=scontent-dub4-1.xx&oh=ca8a97c594e88d7acb506db22c70e80e&oe=5CC40A6F[/img] :eek

[fazersharp]

[img alt=https://scontent-dub4-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/46960635_3520785361271731_3343978888609923072_n.jpg?_nc_cat=105&_nc_ht=scontent-dub4-1.xx&oh=ca8a97c594e88d7acb506db22c70e80e&oe=5CC40A6F]https://scontent-dub4-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/46960635_3520785361271731_3343978888609923072_n.jpg?_nc_cat=105&_nc_ht=scontent-dub4-1.xx&oh=ca8a97c594e88d7acb506db22c70e80e&oe=5CC40A6F[/img] :eek

Fine- we will get wet and cold but we can swim and we will dry off, or at lease we can until the EU ban hair dryers

[mtread]

OK, so that's adding:
5. We want more air pollution
6. We want to waste more energy
7. We want to use more fossil fuels instead of sustainable bio fuel
Does that sum it up? And are you suggesting for a moment that the UK wouldn't have legislated anyway?

[fazersharp]

OK, so that's adding:

6. We want to waste more energy BY having to use the product for twice as long as before

Does that sum it up? And are you suggesting for a moment that the UK wouldn't have legislated anyway? That's the point we don't want the legislation to come from the EU. Just like VNA does not want to be ruled by Westminster. 

[fazersharp]

Lovely, lets murder all the asylum seekers.

That's a silly idea, we could just bulldoze and concrete over 1,000s of hectares of scotish mountains and build houses there because there is loads of wasted space that is just hired out at the moment for rich Americans to shoot sheep.   

[dazza]

Noisy lawn mowers
Efficient home energy consumption assessment
Desk top lamp design
And a shit load of other bollocks


https://www.express.co.uk/comment/expres...ve-nothing

[mtread]

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[VNA]

Yeah!  So we got some new reasons fae the BREXITEER foccers. 
So
5.  Didn’t know anybody still made 2 strokes.  They’ve been obsolete for 20 years.  Nobody is interested in manufacturing them or buying them.
6.  I am lost.  No idea what you are on about. 
7.  You want the right to poor quality inefficient goods. 
8.  There are rumours that the UK, yes UK government may introduce E10 fuel to the UK.  Consultation continues.  But this has nothing to do with the EU.

[YamFazFan]

OK, so that's adding:
5. We want more air pollution
6. We want to waste more energy
7. We want to use more fossil fuels instead of sustainable bio fuel
Does that sum it up? And are you suggesting for a moment that the UK wouldn't have legislated anyway?

Are the rest of the world outside of the EU complying to this legislation?.


I think it requires a global effort if we're going to make a global difference.


I've seen the statistics for EU plastic waste for example and it's miniscule compared with the rest of the world.


You get the feeling that we in the EU are making a vain attempt to right all the environmental wrongs on our own :rolleyes

[VNA]

1.      Daylight running lamps
2.      Graded Bananas
3.      Dazza’a Great Grandfather
4.      Cheap and nasty food and drink imports
5.      A ban on new 2 stroke motorcycles
6.      banning of certain types of domestic light bulbs that result in people having to shell out for the extra expense of new fittings/lamps.
7.      Lower wattage vacuum cleaners
8.      E10 fuel


So 5 is, err umm, well nobody wants to manufacture 2 strokes.  I’m taking that off yer list.
6. needs further explanation.  I’ll stick it on, if you can kinda explain, well what the fuck you are on about.
7.  Ok you want crap goods, kinda goes with 4 – wanting crap food. 
8.  Is off the list.  Nothing to do with the EU.

[VNA]

So the new foc-u BREXITEER list is;


1.      Daylight running lamps
2.      Graded Bananas
3.      Dazza’a Great Grandfather
4.      Cheap and nasty food and drink imports
5.      Crap inefficient electrical goods.



So is that it?

[VNA]

That's the point we don't want the legislation to come from the EU. Just like VNA does not want to be ruled by Westminster. 

VNA does not want to be ruled by Tories.  Which also means I don’t want to be ruled by idiots who wish to trash their economy in the name of some sort of hysterical imperialistic nationalism.  My desire for Scottish Independence is purely political. 

[VNA]

Ah, this kinda sums it up fae me;