I worked in the building trade for most of my life (Brickie)
I picked up a job after the Big Storm of 30 years ago.
A house had lost its 'Cable End' wall, pulled over by a heavy cable running from a pole to the apex of the gable wall that was trashed about by the high winds.
Scaffolding up, remainder of gable end wall taken down and cleared.
Materials delivered by a local builders merchants, but they delivered the next size up steel Catnic lintel, out with the 9" spinner (Disc Cutter) 300mm removed from one end quick splash of red oxide over the cut edge, lintel up wall rebuilt, scaffold down, rubble away, clean the down stairs very large lounge window to find that it was like sandpaper with hundreds and thousands of minute pieces of molten steel burned into the glass :eek I lost about 80% the money that I made had doing the job paying for replacement double glazed units and having them fitted. :'(
I have seen big rusty red/brown fanned out patches on footpaths and patios where builders have used disc cutters without either covering up, or, cutting somewhere safe. I have learned my lesson. :rolleyes
(05-12-17, 05:33 PM)tommyardin link Wrote: Since fitting the blue spot rear caliper I decided to completely service the front two blue spots.
Spent the afternoon out on the patio in fairly pleasant weather hint of sunshine for a while.
Removed calipers (Left the brake lines connected) gave them a good soaking in hot soapy water hanging in a bucket and used the wife's toothbrush to give them a really good scrub, gently pushed the pistons out a little so i could really clean them (Thankfully no rust what-so-ever) rinsed and dried and red rubber greased the piston, remover the top of the Master Cylinder and gently pushed the piston back into place , removed excess RR grease.
Pads still have lots of life in them so cleaned them and lubed he rear of pads with a smear of Copper Slip along with the pad retaining pin and R Clips.
Spent about 3 hours doing the job but well pleased with the outcome, looks better as well with nice clean calipers.
[size=1.35em]Tip[/size]: The spring that bears down on the pads by the brake pad retaining pin has to go on the right way round, the spring is not symmetrical, seen on one of the pictures below.
I use a stainless steel scouring ball to clean the pad pins up, it gets any shite off them really efficiently without any damage at all to the pin.
And the gold colured pad plate has a small arrow on it which should be facing upwards (forward motion) on refitting. You can just see it in your photo on the bottom left of the plate.
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(05-12-17, 07:39 PM)darrsi link Wrote: [quote author=tommyardin link=topic=6412.msg271999#msg271999 date=1512491581]
Since fitting the blue spot rear caliper I decided to completely service the front two blue spots.
Spent the afternoon out on the patio in fairly pleasant weather hint of sunshine for a while.
Removed calipers (Left the brake lines connected) gave them a good soaking in hot soapy water hanging in a bucket and used the wife's toothbrush to give them a really good scrub, gently pushed the pistons out a little so i could really clean them (Thankfully no rust what-so-ever) rinsed and dried and red rubber greased the piston, remover the top of the Master Cylinder and gently pushed the piston back into place , removed excess RR grease.
Pads still have lots of life in them so cleaned them and lubed he rear of pads with a smear of Copper Slip along with the pad retaining pin and R Clips.
Spent about 3 hours doing the job but well pleased with the outcome, looks better as well with nice clean calipers.
[size=1.35em]Tip[/size]: The spring that bears down on the pads by the brake pad retaining pin has to go on the right way round, the spring is not symmetrical, seen on one of the pictures below.
I use a stainless steel scouring ball to clean the pad pins up, it gets any shite off them really efficiently without any damage at all to the pin.
And the gold colured pad plate has a small arrow on it which should be facing upwards (forward motion) on refitting. You can just see it in your photo on the bottom left of the plate.
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Hey Darrsi,
Good spot mate.
I cleaned them bad boys and did not even notice the arrow, I had to check in the Haynes Manual to see which way around the spring went and that was on the second caliper, fortunately I had fitted the first one the correct way around. :thumbup
05-12-17, 10:40 PM (This post was last modified: 06-12-17, 06:52 PM by Fazerider.)
(05-12-17, 06:25 PM)limax2 link Wrote: Made sure the Fazer was fully covered before using the angle grinder on a steel item in the vice.
This is always a useful precaution unless you happen to like the look of tiny rust spots on items nearby.
Likewise, don't expect the burning steel sparks to bounce harmlessly off your patio doors, they stick to glass and each melts a tiny little pit. :'(
>edit< Sorry Tommy, didn't read back far enough to see you'd already covered this!
06-12-17, 03:25 PM (This post was last modified: 06-12-17, 03:26 PM by tommyardin.)
Did my plug caps about a year ago, 8mm off the end of the HT leads, plug cap end, but the angled caps I bought were no good as they hit the camshaft tunnel top before they were popped onto the plugs, so I refitted the OEM ones, but was not really happy with the way the screwed on, a bit hit and miss I felt, almost as if they were reluctant to screw themselves into the HT lead. anyway I have just ordered some of theses hoping they will fit.
A ride into Shropshire this morning, then back into Wales and the Ponderosa, Horseshoe Pass, for a snack. A bit breezy but very mild. A dozen bikers there when I arrived.
(05-12-17, 07:52 PM)tommyardin link Wrote: [quote author=darrsi link=topic=6412.msg272011#msg272011 date=1512499184]
[quote author=tommyardin link=topic=6412.msg271999#msg271999 date=1512491581]
Since fitting the blue spot rear caliper I decided to completely service the front two blue spots.
Spent the afternoon out on the patio in fairly pleasant weather hint of sunshine for a while.
Removed calipers (Left the brake lines connected) gave them a good soaking in hot soapy water hanging in a bucket and used the wife's toothbrush to give them a really good scrub, gently pushed the pistons out a little so i could really clean them (Thankfully no rust what-so-ever) rinsed and dried and red rubber greased the piston, remover the top of the Master Cylinder and gently pushed the piston back into place , removed excess RR grease.
Pads still have lots of life in them so cleaned them and lubed he rear of pads with a smear of Copper Slip along with the pad retaining pin and R Clips.
Spent about 3 hours doing the job but well pleased with the outcome, looks better as well with nice clean calipers.
[size=1.35em]Tip[/size]: The spring that bears down on the pads by the brake pad retaining pin has to go on the right way round, the spring is not symmetrical, seen on one of the pictures below.
I use a stainless steel scouring ball to clean the pad pins up, it gets any shite off them really efficiently without any damage at all to the pin.
And the gold colured pad plate has a small arrow on it which should be facing upwards (forward motion) on refitting. You can just see it in your photo on the bottom left of the plate.
[/quote]
Hey Darrsi,
Good spot mate.
I cleaned them bad boys and did not even notice the arrow, I had to check in the Haynes Manual to see which way around the spring went and that was on the second caliper, fortunately I had fitted the first one the correct way around. :thumbup
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Because I am getting old and forgetful I take a lot of photos with my phone before taking things apart nowadays so I have a reminder of how it fitted together, but there is also a little voice in my head saying " how do you know it was fitted correctly before". :\
(06-12-17, 04:31 PM)Anquetil link Wrote: A ride into Shropshire this morning, then back into Wales and the Ponderosa, Horseshoe Pass, for a snack. A bit breezy but very mild. A dozen bikers there when I arrived.
and the trusty little Fazer hiding in plain sight, did you have to wait often for the other three :lol :lol :lol
(06-12-17, 11:05 PM)Anquetil link Wrote: I'm too old and slow to ride with those big boys ! I can't seem to find anyone slow enough to accompany me. :'(
(06-12-17, 06:00 PM)slappy link Wrote: [quote author=tommyardin link=topic=6412.msg272012#msg272012 date=1512499935]
[quote author=darrsi link=topic=6412.msg272011#msg272011 date=1512499184]
[quote author=tommyardin link=topic=6412.msg271999#msg271999 date=1512491581]
Since fitting the blue spot rear caliper I decided to completely service the front two blue spots.
Spent the afternoon out on the patio in fairly pleasant weather hint of sunshine for a while.
Removed calipers (Left the brake lines connected) gave them a good soaking in hot soapy water hanging in a bucket and used the wife's toothbrush to give them a really good scrub, gently pushed the pistons out a little so i could really clean them (Thankfully no rust what-so-ever) rinsed and dried and red rubber greased the piston, remover the top of the Master Cylinder and gently pushed the piston back into place , removed excess RR grease.
Pads still have lots of life in them so cleaned them and lubed he rear of pads with a smear of Copper Slip along with the pad retaining pin and R Clips.
Spent about 3 hours doing the job but well pleased with the outcome, looks better as well with nice clean calipers.
[size=1.35em]Tip[/size]: The spring that bears down on the pads by the brake pad retaining pin has to go on the right way round, the spring is not symmetrical, seen on one of the pictures below.
I use a stainless steel scouring ball to clean the pad pins up, it gets any shite off them really efficiently without any damage at all to the pin.
And the gold colured pad plate has a small arrow on it which should be facing upwards (forward motion) on refitting. You can just see it in your photo on the bottom left of the plate.
[/quote]
Hey Darrsi,
Good spot mate.
I cleaned them bad boys and did not even notice the arrow, I had to check in the Haynes Manual to see which way around the spring went and that was on the second caliper, fortunately I had fitted the first one the correct way around. :thumbup
[/quote]
Because I am getting old and forgetful I take a lot of photos with my phone before taking things apart nowadays so I have a reminder of how it fitted together, but there is also a little voice in my head saying " how do you know it was fitted correctly before". :\
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They were probably fitted right before, unless I fitted them of course, I did not even see the arrows on the pad retaining springs on my front calipers. :'(
(05-12-17, 10:40 PM)Fazerider link Wrote: [quote author=limax2 link=topic=6412.msg272007#msg272007 date=1512494714]
Made sure the Fazer was fully covered before using the angle grinder on a steel item in the vice.
This is always a useful precaution unless you happen to like the look of tiny rust spots on items nearby.
Likewise, don't expect the burning steel sparks to bounce harmlessly off your patio doors, they stick to glass and each melts a tiny little pit. :'(
>edit< Sorry Tommy, didn't read back far enough to see you'd already covered this!
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I didn't just cover this! I covered the foccing window as well with molten metal spots. :'(
(10-12-17, 02:01 PM)Anquetil link Wrote: I had considered another search for your missing hat at lake Vyrnwy, Tommy. You will have to manage without it for a while longer. :lol
I know as you ride around Lake Vyrnwy there are thousands of brown leather hats strewn around the roads, but, this is mine and I don't want you bringing back any old hat, it must be the right one :lol
Complete with the Welsh Daffodil and Peacock feather.
I will add the hat in the photo is not the original, but an exact representation none the less.
This image will be very useful, given the vast array of similar hats to be found in the vicinity of the lake. Thank-you Tommy, most thoughtful. I have printed it and shall take it with me. The vibrant Welsh Daffodil should be sufficient to distinguish your hat from the run of the mill versions roaming amongst the pheasants in this area.
(10-12-17, 02:38 PM)Anquetil link Wrote: This image will be very useful, given the vast array of similar hats to be found in the vicinity of the lake. Thank-you Tommy, most thoughtful. I have printed it and shall take it with me. The vibrant Welsh Daffodil should be sufficient to distinguish your hat from the run of the mill versions roaming amongst the pheasants in this area.
Thank you so much for you fast response and your willingness to go that extra mile in helping out a fellow Fazer (Foccer) owner, should you ever be unfortunate enough to have a loss, nay a bereavement such as the loss of an old friend (Say a hat) in Hampshire, I will spring to your aid in helping to recover said article. :rolleyes
10-12-17, 02:55 PM (This post was last modified: 10-12-17, 03:32 PM by tommyardin.)
Me thinks there is more than one bored to F--k Fazer owner wishing the weather was better and find something more constructive to do than sit on their computer making platitudes and overtures of never ending friendship and willingness to help.
:lol :rollin :rollin :rollin :lol
