lights out!

[shieldr]

Help. My beloved fazer has no side, dipped or full beams coming on and the fuse is intact.

Many thanks

[shieldr]

Sorry, I meant to say if anyone has any pointers that would be very much appreciated. I have an 02 plate foxeye. From what I have read it may be a 4 pin relay under the windshield. Another daft question...is the windshield easy to remove?

Ta

[BBROWN1664]

corrosion in the switch on the right bar?
does the pass switch work still?

[Fazerider]

I’d take a good look at the wiring near the ignition switch, as the steering turns the cable bundle flexes slightly so it’s a popular spot for a wire to break.


The second area to check is the boxful of connectors under the tank, make sure all are clean and making good contact. With a high-current load such as lights there is a good chance a bad contact will have heated up the joint making it easier to spot.

[shieldr]

Ok. I have checked the wiring and visibly it looks ok. Also, I have found out the horn doesn't work also.

Regarding the pass switch am not sure what that is.

Thanks for any advice

[BBROWN1664]

The pass switch is the switch on the front of the left hand switch cluster (the one with the indicators on) that allows you to flash the headlight.

[shieldr]

Pass switch does work. Ta. In summary no horn, brake lights or lights. Still investigating...

[shieldr]

Should I be taking the fairing off and looking for wire damage behind the clocks?

[tommyardin]

No don't remove the fairing at this stage, look under the tank in the black box full of connectors, or, under the Clutch Lever (Left hand side as your sitting on the bike) side front fairing infill panel, 3 screw to access that one so I would check that first, switch ignition on and the headlights and wiggle the large white plastic connector that under the front fairing infill panel, if the lights flicker on and off you found the problem in the connection box, if it does not make any difference I would check the black electrical box under the tank.
let us know how you get on.

[shieldr]

Thanks for this tip. It is not the connection box under the tank so the other option gives me something to go at. Will feedback results.

[unfazed]

No don't remove the fairing at this stage, look under the tank in the black box full of connectors, or, under the Clutch Lever (Left hand side as your sitting on the bike) side front fairing infill panel, 3 screw to access that one so I would check that first, switch ignition on and the headlights and wiggle the large white plastic connector that under the front fairing infill panel, if the lights flicker on and off you found the problem in the connection box, if it does not make any difference I would check the black electrical box under the tank.
let us know how you get on.

If the rear light(not the brake light) comes  on when you turn the switch on the right handle bar to parking or full lights, (Ignition on) then the mostly likely cause is the connectors under the left infill panel which are prone to corrosion. Oh No I am agreeing with Tommy again, :eek :lol I would pull the large white connector apart and check for the dreaded bluish green corrosion colour.
A liberal spray of WD40 and connect and disconnect the connector 5 or 6 time should sort it.

[shieldr]

Ok just removed the lhs in fill fairing and found no obvious damage. I still have to try disconnecting.

[tommyardin]

[quote author=tommyardin link=topic=23404.msg270138#msg270138 date=1508520769]
No don't remove the fairing at this stage, look under the tank in the black box full of connectors, or, under the Clutch Lever (Left hand side as your sitting on the bike) side front fairing infill panel, 3 screw to access that one so I would check that first, switch ignition on and the headlights and wiggle the large white plastic connector that under the front fairing infill panel, if the lights flicker on and off you found the problem in the connection box, if it does not make any difference I would check the black electrical box under the tank.
let us know how you get on.

If the rear light(not the brake light) comes  on when you turn the switch on the right handle bar to parking or full lights, (Ignition on) then the mostly likely cause is the connectors under the left infill panel which are prone to corrosion. Oh No I am agreeing with Tommy again, :eek :lol I would pull the large white connector apart and check for the dreaded bluish green corrosion colour.
A liberal spray of WD40 and connect and disconnect the connector 5 or 6 time should sort it.
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[darrsi]

When the indicators are on, do they flash at a 'normal' speed, or do they appear a bit rapid?

[shieldr]

Ok have followed up on all actions above. Connectors under the fairing are fairly minging but I have scooted them with wd40 and made and broke the connections loads of times with not so much as a flicker. I have a voltmeter now and have 12 volts after the headlamp fuse. I am studying the schematic to see what is common for headlamps, horn, back lights and brake lights. The indicators work fine and are at a normal speed.

Thinking of pulling apart the head lamp switch when I get a minute to see if am getting power there.

Cheers

[shieldr]

Maybe a broken common earth?

[Disorderlypunk]

ok you have 12v at the headlight fuse
just trace that wire at every junction and find where you havent got 12 v anymore
always have a sewing pin to hand in case you have to pierce the wire


i often jump straight to headlight and see if 12v there as it is easy to get too
no12v at HL its between fuse and bulb so likely switch but could be a plug inbetween
12v at HL -its a earth problem (run a temp earth to negative to make sure)




- its often easier to eliminate the possibilities than to find the problem direct

[shieldr]

Brilliant thanks

[tommyardin]

ok you have 12v at the headlight fuse
just trace that wire at every junction and find where you havent got 12 v anymore
always have a sewing pin to hand in case you have to pierce the wire


i often jump straight to headlight and see if 12v there as it is easy to get too
no12v at HL its between fuse and bulb so likely switch but could be a plug inbetween
12v at HL -its a earth problem (run a temp earth to negative to make sure)




- its often easier to eliminate the possibilities than to find the problem direct

Well done Disorderly makes sense  :thumbup

[unfazed]

Go back to the box under the tank and check all the connections, using the same procedure you did with the connector under the infill