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Rust on fazer 98, is it a problem?
#21
Downpipes look solid to me , OK they dont look too good but not falling apart , wire brush , a good sanding and a fresh coat of paint will soon get them looking good again....bike is priced by the mileage , yes a little high but the mileage is low , I have the same year bike which in a few weeks will turn 50.000........be surprised if the collector box is rotten and holed , with the deposit not returnable I would go back and have a closer look, you wont be able to see the holes in the collector box but you should be able to get your fingers in there , a torch might help , explain to the dealer your worries / concerns might get a bit off , coming to the end of the season so hes not goingvto want to lose a sale as much as you dont want to lose your deposit.......
  If you do buy it , dont forget you'll get loads of help on here if needed  Wink
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#22
Now I found myself in situation with a rusted vehicle a few years back, it was sports car and I purchased it from a dealer I paid for it in full
(Silly buy, I saw it, I loved it, shiny shiny, I want it) a similar situation but I had parted with a fairly large sum of money.


The following day I heard a noise coming from a back wheel so got a mechanically cleaver friend to take a look, while he was under the back looking at the area the squealing sound was coming form he notice a lot of yellow crayon marks all along the chassis, he got me to look and while I was there he pushed hard with his thumb in several places that were marked with crayon and shoved his thumb through the box section chassis making 5 holes in all.


Dazzer dealt with it for me he rang up the garage speaking on my behalf and said that the car was coming back and he wanted a complete refund, the garage said that they would make repairs to it and that there would be no refund.
Dazzer said that the car was neither fit for purpose or of merchantable quality and that he was taking the car for an MOT and if it failed the test which it would because a lot of the rust in the chassis was within a certain distance from the suspension mountings. This would prove that the car was not fit for purpose and that the garage had been less than professional passing a dangerous vehicle and also that the most recent MOT test would stand as a failure.
He then said to them what way do you want to play this? Within two hours the car was back at the garage from whence it came and my £4,750-00 was direct transferred back into my account.


The last thing that garage wanted was seen to be selling a car with a full years MOT on it when it was obviously not roadworthy and an MOT failure, plus they would then have a car back that the most up to date MOT test showed it as a failure.


Now its not quite the same i know BUT if it the fazer that Woody has put money down on has a full years MOT put on by the selling garage and the exhaust is rusted through to pin holes that again is an MOT failure, blowing exhaust, so again not fit for purpose or merchantable quality. therefore it does not have a valid MOT.


Also is there a law about a cooling off period when making a purchase?   


Apparently garages will often do this yellow crayon treatment to a car if it is rusty, so, if the car comes back the following tear for an MOT they know the places to look for deterioration, Wax crayon does not wash off with water of poor weather.


Good Luck Woody and I hope you get the outcome you want mate.


I think everyone should have a Dazzer as a friend, not only is he gifted mechanically he also has a good grasp of the law, and he's about 17 stone of muscle.
Don't fuck with Dazzer.
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#23
Quote:Thanks guys defo walking away, unfortunately I foolishly put a £200 deposit on the bike on wed which the dealer is now refusing to pay back. ?
If it was a cheque phone the bank and cancel cheque.If you left deposit by credit card, phone credit card company and try to cancel.
If it was cash or debit, well you've got a problem.  Check the paperwork.  Ask citizens advive.Failing all, sit outside dealer on a Saturday.  Wait till he's got a few punters in and if you have to make a scene (don't do anything too silly though).
Good luck.
   
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#24
(22-09-17, 10:50 PM)VNA link Wrote: Failing all, sit outside dealer on a Saturday.  Wait till he's got a few punters in and if you have to make a scene (don't do anything too silly though).
Good luck.

That's easier said than done Wink.

A few people are comfortable doing that, but most aren't.

Sometimes you just have to chalk things up to experience.






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#25
(21-09-17, 02:15 PM)mr self destruct link Wrote: Walk away.

I had a similar issue when I bought mine and the exhaust studs made it a right pain in the arse job.

My Fazer currently has very good condition exhaust studs. Is there anything I can do to prevent future problems? I'm going to take all the nuts off one by one and slap some copperslip on but is it worthwhile replacing all the studs with stainless steel ones?

rob
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#26
(23-09-17, 08:17 PM)rlkat link Wrote: [quote author=mr self destruct link=topic=23298.msg268518#msg268518 date=1505999717]
Walk away.

I had a similar issue when I bought mine and the exhaust studs made it a right pain in the arse job.

My Fazer currently has very good condition exhaust studs. Is there anything I can do to prevent future problems? I'm going to take all the nuts off one by one and slap some copperslip on but is it worthwhile replacing all the studs with stainless steel ones?

rob
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It's probably not worth trying to get the studs out as you risk a chance of them snapping.  As long as the nuts come off easily enough then removing them and applying a bit of copper grease to the studs once a year will be enough to keep things in good knick
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#27
(23-09-17, 08:48 PM)Dudeofrude link Wrote: [quote author=rlkat link=topic=23298.msg268642#msg268642 date=1506194265]
[quote author=mr self destruct link=topic=23298.msg268518#msg268518 date=1505999717]
Walk away.

I had a similar issue when I bought mine and the exhaust studs made it a right pain in the arse job.

My Fazer currently has very good condition exhaust studs. Is there anything I can do to prevent future problems? I'm going to take all the nuts off one by one and slap some copperslip on but is it worthwhile replacing all the studs with stainless steel ones?

rob
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It's probably not worth trying to get the studs out as you risk a chance of them snapping.  As long as the nuts come off easily enough then removing them and applying a bit of copper grease to the studs once a year will be enough to keep things in good knick
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Cheers, Dude.  :thumbup
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#28
whereabouts are you woody? and are you in a rush to get a bike? i have one which needs a new mot and some work which will be sold soon ish.
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