15-08-17, 10:06 PM
(This post was last modified: 15-08-17, 10:17 PM by fazersharp.)
(15-08-17, 09:03 PM)VNA link Wrote: Quote:This is your problem, you don't know how to chat nicely, you have to take everything to another level.
Happy to help out. 
By the way. I’m not the one spouting racist pish. :thumbdown I’m not the one appeasing fascists. I’m not the one criticising those brave enough to stand up against them, and I’m not the one criticising people who object to fascists gathering and taking over their town.
For focs sake, it’s motorcycle forum. There are plenty of white supremacist web sites and forums out there, as well as what’s left of UKIP and the BNP. There’s plenty places you can go and spout yer racist pish. So are you saying that I am because I do not see how you got that from my post.
You are the one spouting the most hate and anger and violence -with a thin veil of moral high-ground justification and this is the problem with the left they feel that they somehow have morals on their side to do and say what they want, as I said the left and the right are just as bad as each other when it comes to 2017 violence, yes some twisted FOC-ed up moron drove into the crowd but what would of happened to that right wing spokes person if he was not rescued by the police. There is violence on both sides
I don't do rain or threat there of. dry rider only with no shame.
15-08-17, 10:31 PM
(This post was last modified: 15-08-17, 10:33 PM by VNA.)
Quote:You are the one spouting the most hate and anger and violence -with a thin veil of moral high-ground justification and this is the problem with the left they feel that they somehow have morals on their side to do and say what they want, as I said the left and the right are just as bad as each other when it comes to 2017 violence,
Bull Shite fazersharp. You are appeasing fascists. You are supporting white supremacists and racists. Shame on you.
Go home. ... You are not wanted in this great commonwealth. Shame on you
Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe
(15-08-17, 09:03 PM)VNA link Wrote: Quote:This is your problem, you don't know how to chat nicely, you have to take everything to another level.
Happy to help out.
By the way. I’m not the one spouting racist pish. :thumbdown I’m not the one appeasing fascists. I’m not the one criticising those brave enough to stand up against them, and I’m not the one criticising people who object to fascists gathering and taking over their town.
For focs sake, it’s motorcycle forum. There are plenty of white supremacist web sites and forums out there, as well as what’s left of UKIP and the BNP. There’s plenty places you can go and spout yer racist pish.
All i've spoken about is facts, several moments in time that i have had to endure over many years.
It's not an opinion of what i reckon these people might be like, it's what i've had to personally deal with, and it was nearly all bad every time.
And you're right, it is a bike forum, but this thread is about pub talk, and i was talking about pubs, so it's all totally relevant.
More people are born because of alcohol than will ever die from it.
(15-08-17, 10:31 PM)VNA link Wrote: Quote:You are the one spouting the most hate and anger and violence -with a thin veil of moral high-ground justification and this is the problem with the left they feel that they somehow have morals on their side to do and say what they want, as I said the left and the right are just as bad as each other when it comes to 2017 violence,
Bull Shite fazersharp. You are appeasing fascists. You are supporting white supremacists and racists. Shame on you.
Go home. ... You are not wanted in this great commonwealth. Shame on you
Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe I'm not - what just because I condemn both sides violence that somehow means I support racists. there is something very twisted in your head, maybe its the lack of sunlight in Scotland or maybe whisky flows out of your taps/ could it even be deep fried mars bars, factory farmed salmon - the northern lights, there is something affecting your brain up there for sure.
I don't do rain or threat there of. dry rider only with no shame.
(15-08-17, 05:18 AM)slappy link Wrote: a violent racist islamophobic anti semitic neo nazi lbgt hater
Have you been reading my Tinder profile again ?
Virginia Governor Terry McAuliffe has said one of the reasons the police failed to control the violence during a white supremacist rally in Charlottesville was because militia members at the rally were armed with "better equipment" than the state police themselves.
“It’s easy to criticise, but I can tell you this, 80 per cent of the people here had semiautomatic weapons," Mr McAuliffe said.
Several members of militia groups, seen wearing tactical gear and carrying assault rifles, were marching from the early morning to Emancipation Park where the rally was supposed to take place to protest the removal of a statue of Civil War Confederate General Robert E Lee.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/virgin...93151.html
15-08-17, 11:30 PM
(This post was last modified: 15-08-17, 11:40 PM by fazersharp.)
So 80% were carrying submachine guns and yet --------
Brian Moran, Virginia’s secretary of public safety and homeland security, said he saw from a post at a downtown bank that there were sporadic fights until people began throwing water bottles, smoke bombs, and using pepper spray. And that's from the link you kindly provided
Where where all the bullets from the machine guns in your link.
Maybe it's the Langoustines -- did I mention the Langoustines - maybe its those.
I don't do rain or threat there of. dry rider only with no shame.
Seems to me like you're getting off on violent videos.
More people are born because of alcohol than will ever die from it.
VNA it takes 2 opposing sides to cause a punch up. I don't condone or like what the Nazis, kk stand for, my granddad and uncle spent 5years fighting them, both wounded, 1 at Dunkirk the other in a raid on Norway. America like this country has freedom of speech that is for everyone not just the what certain section of society believe to be right. if you go back through history the commis, left wing have nothing to be proud of. Stalin and his commis committed atrocities equal to the Nazis ask some of the polish people taken prisoners.
(16-08-17, 07:31 AM)steve 10562cc link Wrote: VNA it takes 2 opposing sides to cause a punch up. I don't condone or like what the Nazis, kk stand for, my granddad and uncle spent 5years fighting them, I am even closer than that as it was my Dad that fought in WW2, his medals hang on my wall.
I don't do rain or threat there of. dry rider only with no shame.
did any one else watch new aircraft carrier, HMS Queen Elizabeth, arrive into Portsmouth this morning?
was impressive to watch her fro, top of Portsdown Hill!
It ain't what you ride, it's who you ride with!!!
(16-08-17, 12:05 PM)Robbie8666 link Wrote: did any one else watch new aircraft carrier, HMS Queen Elizabeth, arrive into Portsmouth this morning?
was impressive to watch her fro, top of Portsdown Hill!
They are an incredible looking piece of kit when you see them in person.
I was in Malta years ago and the U.S. aircraft carrier J.F.K. docked while I was there, then 3000 navy crew took over the town for 3 days getting absolutely hammered on booze.
More people are born because of alcohol than will ever die from it.
(16-08-17, 02:30 PM)darrsi link Wrote: [quote author=Robbie8666 link=topic=22082.msg266237#msg266237 date=1502881550]
did any one else watch new aircraft carrier, HMS Queen Elizabeth, arrive into Portsmouth this morning?
was impressive to watch her fro, top of Portsdown Hill!
They are an incredible looking piece of kit when you see them in person.
I was in Malta years ago and the U.S. aircraft carrier J.F.K. docked while I was there, then 3000 navy crew took over the town for 3 days getting absolutely hammered on booze.
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ahh Valletta yeah had a few runs ashore there!! used to make the pilgrimage to "the last Drop inn", have raise a tot to Ollie Read who spent his last few hours drinking there with matelots & booties...
It ain't what you ride, it's who you ride with!!!
(16-08-17, 02:51 PM)Robbie8666 link Wrote: [quote author=darrsi link=topic=22082.msg266243#msg266243 date=1502890212]
[quote author=Robbie8666 link=topic=22082.msg266237#msg266237 date=1502881550]
did any one else watch new aircraft carrier, HMS Queen Elizabeth, arrive into Portsmouth this morning?
was impressive to watch her fro, top of Portsdown Hill!
They are an incredible looking piece of kit when you see them in person.
I was in Malta years ago and the U.S. aircraft carrier J.F.K. docked while I was there, then 3000 navy crew took over the town for 3 days getting absolutely hammered on booze.
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ahh Valletta yeah had a few runs ashore there!! used to make the pilgrimage to "the last Drop inn", have raise a tot to Ollie Read who spent his last few hours drinking there with matelots & booties...
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Yep, i spent a couple of evenings in there too, a tiny little bar that's like a shrine to him.
Funnily enough i worked on set of Gladiator too, which was why he was there.
More people are born because of alcohol than will ever die from it.
Just of interest, do you get to meet a lot of the film stars in your work darrsi?.
Quote:America like this country has freedom of speech that is for everyone not just the what certain section of society believe to be right.
That’s an interesting statement Steve. America has long had an issue with freedom of speech. Ultimately America has to a large degree had difficulty in understanding freedom of speech. In America it often seems that freedom of speech is a right to spout any old pish, whatever you fancy, even if you just made it up five minutes ago, about anything and everything.
In the UK, on the whole people have understood that freedom of speech comes with a condition. That condition is that you will be held to account for what you say. So, no you can’t just make stuff up and pass it off as fact, as others have a right to question you and even stop you from saying what you are saying if it has no basis in reality or fact, and in particular, or for example, if your bollocks is an incitement to harm others.
Quote:as I said the left and the right are just as bad as each other when it comes to 2017 violence
This isn’t about right and left. It’s about right and wrong. The counter protesters were ordinary people from all backgrounds and all political views who do not want fascists gathering in their town and forcing their evil will upon them.
Fazersharp, I don’t know if Virginia Governor Terry McAuliffe is wholly correct in stating that 80% were carrying semiautomatic weapons (not as you state submachine guns) but if you look at the news clips and youtube feeds you’ll see no end of facists with guns and yes some are holding assault rifles.
So yeah, while the police held back, ordinary people fought back with, as you say, water bottles, smoke bombs and pepper spray. While you, Fazersharp and Steve, wish to appease the Nazi Fascists, despite in fact having family members who fought them, the ordinary people of Charlottesville drove them out.
Meanwhile pretty much the whole world is aghast at President Donald Trump’s continuing appeasement of Nazi Facism.
So I stand by my post 114, and I can assure you that I would not allow white supremacists, Nazi’s or fascists the pleasure of freedom of assembly or speech in my town. With freedom of speech comes responsibility.
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