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Oh no.....not another bolt....
#1
OK so i have really messed up again  :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

Snapped a front mud guard bolt and i really am annoyed - was using a torque wrench to get it to 7NM but it just span round and round then snapped....WTF can i do about this!

yes i can ride without a fender but want to fix it....OMG

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#2
get drilling!
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#3
i am thinking left had drill bits might be best here after what i learned when the exhaust studs snapped.....
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#4
(29-05-15, 06:44 PM)Paulfzs link Wrote:get drilling!
As the man said.
That's one bolt I would never have thought of using a torque wrench on.  Maybe something to be said for "Feels about right".

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#5
it was a cyclo-torque wrench specifically for low torque - and the service manual does state 7NM....so i figured i would do it right  :\
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#6
7nm new, as above "feels tight enough" is what id use for this.
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#7
Relief.....manged to grab the tinest piece of it and it came out with ease with a pair of neddle nose pliers!!!!

WOHOOOO!

I might just get this back together - eventually!


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#8
Are you sure the torque wrench was set to 7Nm and not set to 7lbf. 
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#9
Were you using copper grease?
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#10
so yes wrench was in NM ( other scale is inch-pounds..)

and i was using copper grease...

I really am perplexed as to why it happened, but we all know its usally operator error....so i cannot figure out what i did wrong!

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#11
lucky then!


maybe it was a worn bolt
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#12
damn lucky - the tinest bit of thread left - i would like to know what happened - it felt like the bolt was twisting when i realised what happened.....exactly the same as the exhaust stud feeling thats what i thought oh no.....and stopped.....but it was too late - literally pinged off....
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#13
it may have been done it too tight before and you just helped it finish itself off.
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#14
yes i like that idea - it was like that when i got there - that will do nicely for this one  :b
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#15
7NM would be for a dry bolt if you put grease on then 7NM on the torque wrench would be greater due to the lower friction due to the grease if that makes sense.
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#16
Need to reduce the dry torque setting by 20% or more for greased bolt but can vary a lot depending on grease and materials.  Sometimes a low torque setting is given then an angular measurement given to avoid the problem so you tighten to 3nm say and then tighten another 30 degrees
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#17
Jules-C/Andy FZS - understood about the need to consider the effect of grease.....never considered it!

How would you reliably figure it out - is there a chart that shows how certain greases affect the fixings?
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#18
So can i ask - on bolts such as the suspension clamps, if they are greased - is that advisable or not, i am going to be doing a once over soon before the MOT, not sure wether i should copper grease all threads or not?
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#19
Sorry I can't really advise on % of torque if greased.  I often put grease etc on bolts and seldom use a torque wrench. I tend to just nip things up until they're tight dependant on size. Not really helpful I'm afraid.
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#20
nah its ok m8 don't expect it, i have copper greased the threads on the yoke bolts and tightened them to recommended torque, will re-consider
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