(28-09-13, 01:11 PM)mr self destruct link Wrote: [quote author=fazersharp link=topic=5723.msg104458#msg104458 date=1380369174]
I hope that we have both helped all future readers and the origional poster.
This has definitely helped me! I was unaware that you had to run the engine before checking the level, so no wonder I got the red light of death!
I just added 50ml of oil whenever it came on though so I reckon I'm ok.
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Good to hear
More people are born because of alcohol than will ever die from it.
Wow some one swallowed a rather large sarcasm pill today, or was it just a clever dick?
The reason I posted and why Fazersharp suggested putting on sidestand was because I couldn't see a level and therefore didn't know if that was oil behind the glass or just the colour of the glass. A simple obvious suggestion and not one requiring a rocket scientists degree. Thankfully.
By putting on centre stand I was able to see an empty chamber without first dumping oil and now know what I should be seeing on centre stand after engine running.
Possibly due to having tinkered with cars and m/bikes, including the whole complete strip down and rebuild in living room and bathroom did I think to actually think of checking level on sidestand. It's just sometimes good to take a thing apart to see how it works.
First photo, look to the right of the window, can you see the braille like dots that you can't see?
They look like dots, almost braille like......
Excellent suggestion. Again not Rocket science but I was looking for dots on/in the glass so was blind (excuse the pun) to the braille on the side. But hey as I've always said if we were all perfect it would take the attention away from the smug bastards
Thanks for all your help
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including ones who like chocolate....
Incidentally just been out to recheck and decided to look at glass while engine was running. The oil drops to only just below the top dot while running and the reason I was not seeing a level when getting down after engine stopped is because it literally refills in seconds. So I would now ask (if I hadn't been made to feel silly for asking questions with obvious answers) If anyone had looked at glass while engine was running and taken mental note where their level is in relation to dots.
Women have chocolate men have bikes.....
including ones who like chocolate....
28-09-13, 03:13 PM (This post was last modified: 28-09-13, 03:17 PM by CRH.)
(28-09-13, 03:01 PM)midden link Wrote: Incidentally just been out to recheck and decided to look at glass while engine was running. The oil drops to only just below the top dot while running and the reason I was not seeing a level when getting down after engine stopped is because it literally refills in seconds. So I would now ask (if I hadn't been made to feel silly for asking questions with obvious answers) If anyone had looked at glass while engine was running and taken mental note where their level is in relation to dots.
....Mmmmm?...now that is wierd midden?....mine dissapears completely when i run mine!!..and only show the correct level again when i switch off?... :rolleyes ....that is on center stand btw?
(28-09-13, 02:52 PM)midden link Wrote: Wow some one swallowed a rather large sarcasm pill today, or was it just a clever dick?
The reason I posted and why Fazersharp suggested putting on sidestand was because I couldn't see a level and therefore didn't know if that was oil behind the glass or just the colour of the glass. A simple obvious suggestion and not one requiring a rocket scientists degree. Thankfully.
By putting on centre stand I was able to see an empty chamber without first dumping oil and now know what I should be seeing on centre stand after engine running.
Possibly due to having tinkered with cars and m/bikes, including the whole complete strip down and rebuild in living room and bathroom did I think to actually think of checking level on sidestand. It's just sometimes good to take a thing apart to see how it works.
First photo, look to the right of the window, can you see the braille like dots that you can't see?
They look like dots, almost braille like......
Excellent suggestion. Again not Rocket science but I was looking for dots on/in the glass so was blind (excuse the pun) to the braille on the side. But hey as I've always said if we were all perfect it would take the attention away from the smug bastards
Thanks for all your help
Take no notice of me fella, i'm on a recovery mission from last night still, i'm only kidding :b
On the oil note, it does sound like you have a bit too much in there?
When you switch the engine off you should be watching the oil level rise to where you want it to be between the dots.
If you don't actually know how much is in there i'd suggest letting a bit out and getting it right.
When i bought my bike the previous owner put 4 litres of oil in instead of 2.5, and when i eventually took it for a spin it caused a gasket leak :'(
More people are born because of alcohol than will ever die from it.
after 1st and 2nd service official stamped then 3rd and 4th penned by owner i presume. the fourth showing oil and filter change in June last year (if to be believed). the bikes only done 1k miles since and 700 of those by me. think i'll find a straw and suck some out for now
Women have chocolate men have bikes.....
including ones who like chocolate....
(28-09-13, 04:47 PM)midden link Wrote: after 1st and 2nd service official stamped then 3rd and 4th penned by owner i presume. the fourth showing oil and filter change in June last year (if to be believed). the bikes only done 1k miles since and 700 of those by me. think i'll find a straw and suck some out for now
You can undo the sump bolt and let a bit out into a clean container then re-use if necessary.
If you leave the filler cap done up it won't shoot out so mad as well.
More people are born because of alcohol than will ever die from it.
28-09-13, 06:05 PM (This post was last modified: 28-09-13, 06:06 PM by midden.)
K just to bore u on this one last time.
I decided to go the suck it thru straw and took out (rather slowly) 400ml (that is millilitres as I've recently discovered :rollin [size=0.7em]) which took the oil level below top dot so then run the engines for a good few mins plus. oil not visible while running and then after switching off and leaving for about 5min I got the level in pic which I think is acceptable. [/size]
[size=0.7em]As for the 400ml I will keep for a day in case top up required before using to make some Girt [/size] lush biker chips :rolleyes
Women have chocolate men have bikes.....
including ones who like chocolate....
28-09-13, 08:20 PM (This post was last modified: 28-09-13, 08:24 PM by fazersharp.)
Gonna do it all in one post
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I just added 50ml of oil whenever it came on though so I reckon I'm ok.
That would be about an egg cup then.
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When i bought my bike the previous owner put 4 litres of oil in instead of 2.5,
Woh I had no idea you could even get that much in---they must of filled it to the top of the filler cap--like when you do your coolent
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I decided to go the suck it thru straw and took out (rather slowly)
I am so glad that this worked, its exactly how I used to do stuff like that so got some srynges now
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If you leave the filler cap done up it won't shoot out so mad as well.
Great tip
And looking at your oil that red colour is the same as castrel act-evo
Also any sarky -ness that others see, I usually just see as lighthearted and jokey and I can give out just as much, just so long as I can see that people are getting the idea im sposed to be being funny
I don't do rain or threat there of. dry rider only with no shame.
I'm still a little confused by the oil level check. With the engine running the oil level disappears completely. As soon as I stop the engine the sight glass fills up to the top and beyond in a few seconds. So how do I check the level properly?
(13-04-15, 10:57 AM)crickleymal link Wrote: I'm still a little confused by the oil level check. With the engine running the oil level disappears completely. As soon as I stop the engine the sight glass fills up to the top and beyond in a few seconds. So how do I check the level properly?
With the engine running the oil is doing it's job being chucked about lubricating everything.
When you stop the engine, with bike on the centre stand, it should settle in about a minute and should be about two thirds up between the lower/upper markings next to the window.
If it goes above that you have too much in and you should let a bit out of the sump bolt then go through the motions of starting/checking/topping up(gradually) until it levels in the correct place.
Too much oil can cause problems as well as too little.
More people are born because of alcohol than will ever die from it.
If you're not sure how much is in it just drain it all out and fill it with the correct amount that's stated in the manual. Measure it out and don't worry about the sight glass. If you put in what it says in the manual it'll come to the correct level in the glass. You can't go wrong.
