I got a pcn off Haringey council years ago for riding in a bus lane. Took them to PATAS claiming their signage was insufficient and won. Great feeling that was
Call council direct to prove its not a scam and get the photo / video evidence (they can't withold it) and check all the signage and whether there was a reason for doing it.
You say that you were riding Nicks bike in wales......or he says he was riding your van through lundin........then one o yous gets outta jail......both got yellow bikes anyway so no drama. :b
Easiest way to go fast........don't buy a blue bike
Problem is as the charge has gone directly to his company (the registered owner of the vehicle) they have probably paid the charge already in order to pay at the cheaper rate, and are now pursuing the money back from the driver!
Although I'd be happy for dazza to tell me I'm wrong and he is being given a chance to defend himself! (but I doubt that!)
06-05-14, 11:14 PM (This post was last modified: 06-05-14, 11:16 PM by fazersharp.)
Wait a cottton picking mo.
Its says PCN --- that stands for parking charge notice.
I think its your company that has been scammed by the fake notice and they have just paid it and now are trying to pas it on to you.
06-05-14, 11:31 PM (This post was last modified: 07-05-14, 04:08 PM by dazza.)
It stands for penalty charge notice and I have just seen the photos and as Unfazed and kosmic said I have driven through the wider centre bit, no bollards or arrow but a sign that I can't make out from the pictures but white parallel lines on the road. Think I've got tohold my hands up. Will see if I can post a pic up when I'm on the laptop.
(06-05-14, 11:14 PM)fazersharp link Wrote: Its says PCN --- that stands for parking charge notice.
PCN stand for Penalty Charge Notice.
London Local Authorities and Transport for London Act 2003
38JL Failing to comply with a sign indicating that vehicular traffic must pass to the specified side of the sign.
Some say that he eats habanero chilli peppers dipped in oil of capsaicin for extra bite and that his pyjamas are made from Nomex. All we know is, he's called Ad the Bad
(06-05-14, 11:31 PM)dazza link Wrote: It stands for penalty charge notice and I have just seen the photos and as kosmic said I have driven through the wider centre bit, no bollards or arrow but a sign that I can't make out from the pictures .
If there was no bollard or blue sign with the arrow to indicate which side to go you have a case to argue it.
If the companies already paid it though its a pain.
Just checked the photo again and there was bollards there. Photos not clear enough to see any arrows but think I'm bang to rights on this one. :\ Going to question why it has taken them so long to issue the PCN but think I'm focced tbh. The real frustration about this is that last night I came out the office and disturbed and challenged a group of 5 men trying to steal one of our company vans, took a photo of their car and put myself right in the firing line and guess what, NO camera has been accessed to trace these 5 car thieves but there am I going through a wide bit. :wall
And now for the good news My company have just called me to say that down to my efforts last night in preventing the theft of their van, they are going to pay the PCN for me. Happy days. 8)
Personally I'd challenge the pcn stating that you're using their own photos as your evidence that no signage is visible in these lighting conditions to state which side to travel through!
(07-05-14, 12:37 PM)locksmith link Wrote: Most obvious thing is that the hatchings are surrounded by a solid white line so no excuse really Punkstig I'd have thought.
Just got to take the lack of observation on the chin and use the experience to good effect in the future.
I have to agree with that Locksmith. I don't know what made me go through there really as I don't usually and am very aware that there are cameras watching our every move in London. Must have let my guard down. Still, won't do it again and it's not coming out my wages now so, who gives a foc. :lol
07-05-14, 01:04 PM (This post was last modified: 07-05-14, 01:07 PM by dazza.)
What the real purpose? To prey on your natural reaction to take the wider and safer route to prevent scraping your vehicle on the ridiculously tight gap that they want you to go through and setting up a camera to capture you doing this thus raising revenue for the said local authority. :b
My company have just called me to say that down to my efforts last night in preventing the theft of their van, they are going to pay the PCN for me. Happy days. 8)
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