Changing my coolant - any tips

[fazersharp]

So looks like I will be doing this on Tuesday and while I am under the tank I will replacing the air filter which I already have - Yam OEM. Any last pointers/words of wisdom /dos/don'ts/don't forget/make sure that etc. I will first be using Holts speed flush and then will be replacing with Halfords OAT Ready Mixed Antifreeze 2 Litres Haynes says 1.95L needed so hopefully this will do the job. Do I need a new washer on the drain bolt

[noggythenog]

I didnt replace my drain bolt & it hasnt leaked.


I just followed the procedure in the haynes manual & all was good.



The coolant will piss out at a higher rate than youd imagine, be prepared.


Remember to turn the fuel tap back on before you put the tank back down again.


Remember to check the coolant overflow resorvoir is at the righht level, it is a ballache to try emptying this resorvoir as the pipe is hard to get to underneath to disconnect it...i sooked it out with a device.some people do t replace the coolant in this tank.

[fazersharp]

Thank for the tips
I have a 50mm sryinge and length of tube to getinto the resorvoir ---but dosent that empty out with the rest through the 1 bolt, or are you saying that it will fill as I fill the rad

[noggythenog]

Thank for the tips
I have a 50mm sryinge and length of tube to getinto the resorvoir ---but dosent that empty out with the rest through the 1 bolt, or are you saying that it will fill as I fill the rad

No,it is seperate....some crazy science...not entirely sure how it works but when the system boils up then the excess goes into the tank or something but i do know tht you need the tank to be filled up to the level for the system to work properly.good call using the syringe.right at the end after youve filled up all the coolant & done all your shaking the bike back and forth and topping up etc then top up directly into the plastic expansion tank up to its level marked on the bottle.

[fazersharp]

Ok. Do I have to fully remove the tank or can I get away with just hinging and proping up. I am also replacing the air filter

[dBfazer600]

Did mine yesterday and did as noggy with washer/seal. I bought 15L of Halfords distilled water. Empted the coolant out, added flush and water then ran for 10min idling my fan kicked in. Then left to cool for 10 min.

I left the radiator filler cap on and took out drain bolt. If system is air tight no or little fluid will flow out until the filler cap is off. If alone place tub at a distance to collect coolant. If you have a mate I gave him funnel to put into bottle to catch fluid. After all was out and water went clear I simply flusher the rad with rest of water.

While on centre stand and after adding new coolant run the bike in first. Put bike onto wheels and rock back and forth and lean side to side. Back onto stand check coolant level.

Daz

[dBfazer600]

Ok. Do I have to fully remove the tank or can I get away with just hinging and proping up. I am also replacing the air filter

No need to remove tank compleatly

Daz

[darrsi]

Ok. Do I have to fully remove the tank or can I get away with just hinging and proping up. I am also replacing the air filter

Air filter is tank off.
You will need fuel to warm the engine for the Radflush to work, unless you just take the bike for a spin instead.

[darrsi]

[quote author=fazersharp link=topic=10671.msg112572#msg112572 date=1384126395]
Ok. Do I have to fully remove the tank or can I get away with just hinging and proping up. I am also replacing the air filter

No need to remove tank compleatly

Daz
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I think you can get away with changing the air filter on the later bikes without removing the tank, but on earlier bikes you need to take it off for access.

[dBfazer600]

[quote author=fazersharp link=topic=10671.msg112572#msg112572 date=1384126395]
Ok. Do I have to fully remove the tank or can I get away with just hinging and proping up. I am also replacing the air filter

Air filter is tank off.
You will need fuel to warm the engine for the Radflush to work, unless you just take the bike for a spin instead.
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I did not take the tank off for air filter but had to remove side pannels for access to two nipples that the rubber water cover is secured by. Noggy do I need to worry about something.

Daz

[noggythenog]

Foxeye prob different then, i remember having my tank off & the filter going in from the top down, i doubt i could have managed it with the tank still on...well maybe with it propped up but i would no doubt keep knocking it off its prop & making a mess, tank off gave me more room.


Forgot i didnt do any proper rad flush...but i did fire the garden hose down the filler spout on full blast until the water coming out the drain hole ran clear..which in my case didnt take long.

[fazersharp]

Great help everyone
Eairler bike being a 98 so tank off for air filter, but will have a look see when im at the hinge point. will do the air filter first and then tank back hinged up and do cooent next, I have 5 litres of distilled water for the holts speed flush and following plain water flush. 2.5 ltr for each
Might chuck a load of tap water down and then rinse with the last 2.5ltr distilled water (cause im anal)
When im doing the speed flush do I need to fill up the resorvior with it also
And does the 1.95ltr cap as read in the haynes include the resorvior amount as it dosent seem much

[darrsi]

Great help everyone
Eairler bike being a 98 so tank off for air filter, but will have a look see when im at the hinge point. will do the air filter first and then tank back hinged up and do cooent next, I have 5 litres of distilled water for the holts speed flush and following plain water flush. 2.5 ltr for each
Might chuck a load of tap water down and then rinse with the last 2.5ltr distilled water (cause im anal)
When im doing the speed flush do I need to fill up the resorvior with it also
And does the 1.95ltr cap as read in the haynes include the resorvior amount as it dosent seem much

You're going to rinse water with water? 
The book says you can use soft tap water anyway if you mix your own coolant, so if you're gonna use a premixed coolant after flushing then using tap water with the Radflush is absolutely fine.

[CRH]

[quote author=fazersharp link=topic=10671.msg112585#msg112585 date=1384128209]
Great help everyone
Eairler bike being a 98 so tank off for air filter, but will have a look see when im at the hinge point. will do the air filter first and then tank back hinged up and do cooent next, I have 5 litres of distilled water for the holts speed flush and following plain water flush. 2.5 ltr for each
Might chuck a load of tap water down and then rinse with the last 2.5ltr distilled water (cause im anal)
When im doing the speed flush do I need to fill up the resorvior with it also
And does the 1.95ltr cap as read in the haynes include the resorvior amount as it dosent seem much

....well i recon you best dilutin the water first?...with water..that way your saving water!!specialy if your on a water meter!! :rolleyes


You're going to rinse water with water? 
The book says you can use soft tap water anyway if you mix your own coolant, so if you're gonna use a premixed coolant after flushing then using tap water with the Radflush is absolutely fine.




[/quote]well i recon you should dilute the water first" with water!!..that way your saving water!!..specialy if your on a water meter?

[darrsi]

[quote author=darrsi link=topic=10671.msg112593#msg112593 date=1384153093]
[quote author=fazersharp link=topic=10671.msg112585#msg112585 date=1384128209]
Great help everyone
Eairler bike being a 98 so tank off for air filter, but will have a look see when im at the hinge point. will do the air filter first and then tank back hinged up and do cooent next, I have 5 litres of distilled water for the holts speed flush and following plain water flush. 2.5 ltr for each
Might chuck a load of tap water down and then rinse with the last 2.5ltr distilled water (cause im anal)
When im doing the speed flush do I need to fill up the resorvior with it also
And does the 1.95ltr cap as read in the haynes include the resorvior amount as it dosent seem much

....well i recon you best dilutin the water first?...with water..that way your saving water!!specialy if your on a water meter!! :rolleyes 




You're going to rinse water with water? 
The book says you can use soft tap water anyway if you mix your own coolant, so if you're gonna use a premixed coolant after flushing then using tap water with the Radflush is absolutely fine.




[/quote]well i recon you should dilute the water first" with water!!..that way your saving water!!..specialy if your on a water meter?
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Diluting the water, why didn't i think of that?
Don't dilute it too much though otherwise it will become runny.  :lol

[fazersharp]

You mis-read what I said --------or rather didnt read that I said "I was anal"
Holts rad flush and empty
Push through with tap water
Then rinse the tap water away with De-ionised water (cause im anal remember  :rolleyes )
Then new coolant

[His Dudeness]

Be careful. adding water to water can cause an internal vortex in your rad!

[mtread]

Keep diluting the water with water until you get a homeopathic rad flush  :rolleyes

[CRH]

just tried diluting cold water with hot water?...and it luked warm to me? :rolleyes

[fazersharp]

Keep em coming and I will be announcing a winner this evening