Yes lads I have my darling home after so many nights of me wandering out to an empty shed and going wtf am I going to do now? Nothing to do, clean or fiddle with haha.
But one week later and 300 quid less she's back but I'm still pissed of.
The guy that I brought it 2 firstly took out the carbs and cleaned them( even though I told him I done it over and over again) then put them back in and ran it and still no good so he fiddled ( even though I told him I did) then he tells me it was running that rich that it was putting the spark out on the 3rd cylinder,
So he goes off and buys a second hand carb, puts it in and goes there, sounds ok, it will do ya know its not a race bike and doesn't have to run perfect and then has the bollox to turn round and say they bikes aren't great anyway?
Then puts out his hand like a spoilt child and says 300quid plz, oh and by the way I didn't dyno it at all ( even though that was the reason I brought it to him in the first foccing place!!') and he didn't dyno jet it like he said he would, said he would jet it and dyno it to run perfect for 300.
But no bolloxed around for 2 days with old set then bought 2nd hand one and said it will do. Bollox oh and then he said by the way I cut your pipes for the heating system for your carbs????????? So I looked and low and behold he cut the pipe an inch and a half from the rad and stuck a screw in it and the same at the thermostat!! Said you don't need it in this country, wel I surpose but I would have liked to be the one to be the judge of that!
But now it does have all the low down power back and the top when I give it beans. Just low revs and wot don't mix, have to easy it on till about 4-5 k then she will take any trottle
Just A picture of her in the shed getting fixed
One odd angled one :b
The point of the carb heater circuit it is to prevent carb icing if your bike is unfortunate enough to suffer from it, which just happens to exist between 0 and 5 degrees. I presume you get those sort of warm temperatures in Ireland, occasionally, when it's not raining? :lol
If it was blocked up it wouldn't cause any harm, but cutting the pipes off and plugging them is just bloody rude!
More people are born because of alcohol than will ever die from it.
11-03-13, 05:20 PM (This post was last modified: 11-03-13, 05:25 PM by packie.)
Could you pass on his name so I can avoid a COWBOY like that.
Any of my mechanics that I deal with would have the decency or cop on (because i'd punch their lights out) if they modded or added parts to my Motorbike without ringing me first and getting my approval. To go and purchase a set of carbs and for them and to also mod your bike without your consent is not alone liable, but is also a person who is looking for a good thrashing!!
I wouldn't mind him playing with your original carbs and do stuff that you already done, because I would appreciate a guy wanting to start from scratch himself and work from the ground up. But for him to do what he did without your consent, and then not to finish the job off (dyno it as requested), and add insult to injury by saying that he isn't going to bother because its going to run half shit anyway because its a Fazer....well that justs the bloody icing on the cake for that thrasing to be metted out. What a COWBOY.....no, sorry....I'm insulting poor Cowboys, so I take that back.
It's scandalous that you paid 300 bucks and basically the bike is still running shit. I wouldn't accept that shit even if its better in some areas. For me, I use from 1K-5k in revs about 90% of the time and your bike is totally shit between those revs. And what if you want to sell it on later?? Someone wouldn't give you 200 quid for a bike running like that. So I wonder what is the story, like? You had three set of carbs on and none have got the bike to run anyway near spot on.....you must have more issues than just carbs. Have you a dodgy black box or some other dodgy electrics that is effecting the sparking. Is the motor half goosed? All three carbs couldn't be shite, like.
Anyway, I'd stop putting money into that thing, dude. It's and never ending black hole and a dead end if you ask me.
I have spent my last few quid on it, pissed off now, wel end can came loose again, and I'd say plug caps need replacing but motor is perfect, the guy done a leak down test and he said it was as good as any race bike,
I don't really wana name names or point fingers but he was a cowboy and I think ill stay away from now on, he just wants to do race bikes and that's all I think he has ever done,
He didn't even balance the carbs, he just brought me in, revved it and said that sounds better doesn't it? Like wtf??? I could have just went out and bought a new set myself the twat!
Ah feck it, ill only enoy myself, I have her back with plenty of go in it and I'm ready to hit the road, oh wait no I can't, reason 1 it's snowing, and reason 2 it's gona be -5 tonight so even if I did go out my carbs would freeze up. :groan
(11-03-13, 07:21 PM)reillypadraig link Wrote: I have spent my last few quid on it, pissed off now, wel end can came loose again, and I'd say plug caps need replacing but motor is perfect, the guy done a leak down test and he said it was as good as any race bike,
I don't really wana name names or point fingers but he was a cowboy and I think ill stay away from now on, he just wants to do race bikes and that's all I think he has ever done,
He didn't even balance the carbs, he just brought me in, revved it and said that sounds better doesn't it? Like wtf??? I could have just went out and bought a new set myself the twat!
Ah feck it, ill only enoy myself, I have her back with plenty of go in it and I'm ready to hit the road, oh wait no I can't, reason 1 it's snowing, and reason 2 it's gona be -5 tonight so even if I did go out my carbs would freeze up. :groan
Could you rig up a hairdyer pointing at your carbs for the cold mornings! mash
I didn't really want his name....but he is a Cowboy. You didn't ask for major parts to be fitted and you certainly didn't ask for major parts to be hacked off your bike. He should have ran it by you first. At least when I got my Bandito done for a robbing 300 bucks, I got what I asked for and more. He squeezed an extra 4 horses out of it on the Dyno and she ran sweeter coming out than when she went in. Even if the bike ran shite afterwards, I would still have wanted a dyno done with a print out with before and after results. That is what I went there for. Sure you could have bought another set of carbs and saved yerself about 200 bucks and done what he done yerself. But at least now you know that you will probably need to look beyond your carbs. I doubt if you have two lemon set of carbs on the bike.
Hope you get sorted. Just drive her for now and chuck a few other
I did ask him, cheeky bolox said he would have to charge me an extra 150quid. Oh never again, but then the other end if the scale he is a genius with race bike and setting up straight line speed bikes,
Anyway just happy to have it back, gona try give her a good spin today, fix the end can and go mental cleaning on my chain!!
One thing, I have a chrome Fazer chain cover that I got with the bike but as you can gues with my bike one of the lugs on the Swingarm for bolting it on has sheared of, damage around that area show tel tale signs of a chain break at some stage. Any Ideas??
I did yea, I don't think I'd sell them as hole though because of the way there running, might sell parts of it like the bowls and choke plungers, I don't think I could sell the jets though maybe the fuel mix screws
(12-03-13, 11:27 AM)reillypadraig link Wrote: I did yea, I don't think I'd sell them as hole though because of the way there running, might sell parts of it like the bowls and choke plungers, I don't think I could sell the jets though maybe the fuel mix screws
In the right hands they can be as good as new, just sell them as not set up at a reduced price.
More people are born because of alcohol than will ever die from it.
Original. Haven't done any check on them no, just a cleaning. Seem to be working wel now though, as mid to high range it's a madman, touch the throttle and its instant @ about 5k bang the throttle wide open and I'm nearly of the back of the seat, but 1-5 have to easy the triple open very slowly, bang it open it's will splutter and fart until the revs come up and it's away.
A common problem is loose plug caps which seem ok as the boot on the lead and the cap keep them feeling ok. If you try screwing them on more they may feel loose. Remove them and cut about 10 to 12mm off the leads.
Check the resistance of the caps and it should be around 10K ohms. Note the readings and mark each one as there can be variations.
Ckeck the resistance of the secondary windings of the coil by attaching the meter to the ends of the leads 1 and 4 and then 2 and 3. It should be between 12 to 18K Ohms. Note the readings.
Match the caps to the coils to give as close as possible over all resistance for both coils and caps together, after you screw the caps and coil leads back together. Before putting the caps and leads back together spray WD40 or equivalent into the leads. (Stops corrosion)
For example if one coil reads 15kOhm, the other reads 16 KOhm and plug caps read 9K, 9K, 9K and 10K then put the two 9s on the 16k coil and the 9k and 10K on the 15K coils.
I presume you have new plugs. The correct plugs for Ireland and the UK is the CR8E or CR8EIX plugs, I personally prefer the IX.
Remove the connection to the primary windings of the coil and spray with WD40 or its equivalent and put them back. Do this for all the connection in the box under the tank also as you have the tank raised and the fuel pump connection also.
Set the TPS to the the 5000 on the rev counter but as close to moving to the 10000 side rather than the 0 side.If you move the throttle when doing the test it should go straight to 10000 off the idle position. If you cannot get the adjustment right then the TPS is faulty.
Must write a post on this some other day after what I discovered when my own TPS when high resistance.
(13-03-13, 01:07 AM)unfazed link Wrote: A common problem is loose plug caps which seem ok as the boot on the lead and the cap keep them feeling ok. If you try screwing them on more they may feel loose. Remove them and cut about 10 to 12mm off the leads.
Check the resistance of the caps and it should be around 10K ohms. Note the readings and mark each one as there can be variations.
Ckeck the resistance of the secondary windings of the coil by attaching the meter to the ends of the leads 1 and 4 and then 2 and 3. It should be between 12 to 18K Ohms. Note the readings.
Match the caps to the coils to give as close as possible over all resistance for both coils and caps together, after you screw the caps and coil leads back together. Before putting the caps and leads back together spray WD40 or equivalent into the leads. (Stops corrosion)
For example if one coil reads 15kOhm, the other reads 16 KOhm and plug caps read 9K, 9K, 9K and 10K then put the two 9s on the 16k coil and the 9k and 10K on the 15K coils.
I presume you have new plugs. The correct plugs for Ireland and the UK is the CR8E or CR8EIX plugs, I personally prefer the IX.
Remove the connection to the primary windings of the coil and spray with WD40 or its equivalent and put them back. Do this for all the connection in the box under the tank also as you have the tank raised and the fuel pump connection also.
Set the TPS to the the 5000 on the rev counter but as close to moving to the 10000 side rather than the 0 side.If you move the throttle when doing the test it should go straight to 10000 off the idle position. If you cannot get the adjustment right then the TPS is faulty.
Must write a post on this some other day after what I discovered when my own TPS when high resistance.
Good post. After having three sets of carbs and an Air filter change on the bike and it's still not running correctly, I think it was time to look at the problem elsewhere.....as in the electrics and spark. What you gave him to check there....Well....That should keep him out of the Pub for Paddy's Weekend!!
:lmao2
Yea I have brand new plugs but must give them a good cleaning after the bike was tuning so rich, ill try balance the carbs aswel if I can, good post! Try get the admin to stick that in the hot poop section!! Oh ill have that done before paddys day, nothing keeping me from the pub that day. Haha,
13-03-13, 10:43 AM (This post was last modified: 13-03-13, 10:45 AM by darrsi.)
(13-03-13, 10:34 AM)reillypadraig link Wrote: Yea I have brand new plugs but must give them a good cleaning after the bike was tuning so rich, ill try balance the carbs aswel if I can, good post! Try get the admin to stick that in the hot poop section!! Oh ill have that done before paddys day, nothing keeping me from the pub that day. Haha,
You have to get your priorities right!
I'm off work from yesterday and back next Tuesday, so i've got Cheltenham as well.
More people are born because of alcohol than will ever die from it.
(13-03-13, 10:43 AM)darrsi link Wrote: [quote author=reillypadraig link=topic=6706.msg63159#msg63159 date=1363167264]
Yea I have brand new plugs but must give them a good cleaning after the bike was tuning so rich, ill try balance the carbs aswel if I can, good post! Try get the admin to stick that in the hot poop section!! Oh ill have that done before paddys day, nothing keeping me from the pub that day. Haha,
You have to get your priorities right!
I'm off work from yesterday and back next Tuesday, so i've got Cheltenham as well.
[/quote]
I took a half day yesterday for the Opening of Cheltenham. Had a double with Simonsig and the Fly!!....a most profitable afternoon!!
(13-03-13, 01:07 PM)packie link Wrote: [quote author=darrsi link=topic=6706.msg63161#msg63161 date=1363167798]
[quote author=reillypadraig link=topic=6706.msg63159#msg63159 date=1363167264]
Yea I have brand new plugs but must give them a good cleaning after the bike was tuning so rich, ill try balance the carbs aswel if I can, good post! Try get the admin to stick that in the hot poop section!! Oh ill have that done before paddys day, nothing keeping me from the pub that day. Haha,
You have to get your priorities right!
I'm off work from yesterday and back next Tuesday, so i've got Cheltenham as well.
[/quote]
I took a half day yesterday for the Opening of Cheltenham. Had a double with Simonsig and the Fly!!....a most profitable afternoon!!
[/quote]
Me too, £400 up the first day, can't be bad :woot
More people are born because of alcohol than will ever die from it.
mash 
