(06-09-12, 09:00 PM)red98 link Wrote: [quote author=Lawrence link=topic=2066.msg38021#msg38021 date=1346961185]
I've had a bit of hesitation when pinning the throttle open at high-ish (6k+) engine speeds, changed the air filter + fuel filter and after a quick run up the road it appears to have got rid of it.
I just used a standard £12 filter from Wemoto, ordered Tuesday, arrived today.
Fingers crossed the filter will sort your problem out, this thread seems to be never ending. That said if you removed all the flirting from CRH and Ade it'd probably be about 2 pages  ......... :eek ...flirting from CRH & ADE..?...how dare you lawrence?...let me put you straight about something?  .....ade the blade has he is known? happens to be a ex ...dancing on ice champion!...hence,,,THE BLADE!!!! 8) and is not a man to mess with?.RICHFZS..a very close friend of ade :b ...as been" reading between the sheets" :rolleyes a very bad influence on the blade ?turning him into "dare i say!...Cross Dresser? who regularly rides to work in a tight pencil skirt and high heel boots!! :rolleyes .... but make no mistake lawrence! under all that lipstick and tight fitting skirts is a real man!!...his nickname at school was?...tear arse! :eek ..as rich painfully found out!!! :b ....me on the other hand is just normal like my boyfriend red!!!..
:rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin flirting from CRH and ADE :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin i will have to read again from page one,think i missed that bit :rolleyes
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(06-09-12, 09:57 PM)CRH link Wrote: [quote author=red98 link=topic=2066.msg38022#msg38022 date=1346961634]
[quote author=Lawrence link=topic=2066.msg38021#msg38021 date=1346961185]
I've had a bit of hesitation when pinning the throttle open at high-ish (6k+) engine speeds, changed the air filter + fuel filter and after a quick run up the road it appears to have got rid of it.
I just used a standard £12 filter from Wemoto, ordered Tuesday, arrived today.
Fingers crossed the filter will sort your problem out, this thread seems to be never ending. That said if you removed all the flirting from CRH and Ade it'd probably be about 2 pages ......... :eek ...flirting from CRH & ADE..?...how dare you lawrence?...let me put you straight about something? .....ade the blade has he is known? happens to be a ex ...dancing on ice champion!...hence,,,THE BLADE!!!! 8) and is not a man to mess with?.RICHFZS..a very close friend of ade :b ...as been" reading between the sheets" :rolleyes a very bad influence on the blade ?turning him into "dare i say!...Cross Dresser? who regularly rides to work in a tight pencil skirt and high heel boots!! :rolleyes .... but make no mistake lawrence! under all that lipstick and tight fitting skirts is a real man!!...his nickname at school was?...tear arse! :eek ..as rich painfully found out!!! :b ....me on the other hand is just normal like my boyfriend red!!!..
:rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin flirting from CRH and ADE :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin i will have to read again from page one,think i missed that bit :rolleyes
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:groan .......nighty night.
You know, a pub meet might not be a bad idea, should be a good laugh - probably have to do it somewhere quiet and out of the way so as to reduce the likelihood of the locals calling the authorities to throw some of you lot in the looney bin ... you know who you are...
(06-09-12, 11:50 PM)Dead Eye link Wrote: You know, a pub meet might not be a bad idea, should be a good laugh - probably have to do it somewhere quiet and out of the way so as to reduce the likelihood of the locals calling the authorities to throw some of you lot in the looney bin ... you know who you are... as long as it doesn`t have low beams............these slingbacks jack me up at least 6" :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin oh just noticed... HAPPY BURFDAY RED :guitar :guitar didn`t realise you had a good 30 yrs on me !
(07-09-12, 01:41 PM)ade the blade link Wrote: [quote author=Dead Eye link=topic=2066.msg38051#msg38051 date=1346971803]
You know, a pub meet might not be a bad idea, should be a good laugh - probably have to do it somewhere quiet and out of the way so as to reduce the likelihood of the locals calling the authorities to throw some of you lot in the looney bin ... you know who you are... as long as it doesn`t have low beams............these slingbacks jack me up at least 6" :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin oh just noticed...[size=3.95em]HAPPY BURFDAY RED :guitar :guitar [/size][size=0.7em]didn`t realise you had a good 30 yrs on me ![/size]
cheers mate ........old man now....30years :rolleyes only in your dreams......beers in the fridge,help yourself mate
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07-09-12, 06:56 PM
(This post was last modified: 07-09-12, 07:05 PM by CRH.)
yes!!!!.....happy birthday red[color=#ff0000]...[/color ....leg over tonight then matey?...ps, can i sit on ya shoulders and take pics for ade?
(07-09-12, 06:56 PM)CRH link Wrote: yes!!!!.....[size=3.95em]happy birthday red[/size][size=1em]...[/size][/color ....leg over tonight then matey?...ps, can i sit on ya shoulders and take pics for ade?
cheers matey  [size=78%]............yep,birthdays and christmas,you know the drill[/size] [size=78%]....................paralympics today....great day [/size]
One, is never going to be enough.....
(12-08-12, 03:06 PM)red98 link Wrote: at last back on my 600 fazer problem.....CRH has helped me out with a long list of possible solutions after quizing a mechanic friend....so my thanks go to both of you ......top of the list....BENT VALVE.....so ive done another compression test
cylinder 1...................140 psi
cylinder 2.....................85 psi
cylinder 3.....................61 psi
cylinder 4...................143 psi
these are average figures as i did the test four times,should be about 160/170 psi ,with 40,000 miles on the clock i was not expecting top pressure, within 10% and i would of been happy,the low readings on cyl 2 + 3 has got me thinking :eek
i then disconnected the plug caps in turn to see what these figures mead in real terms....
disconnect plug lead no 1...............little bit flat but idles
disconnect plug lead no 2...............flat but wont idle
disconnect plug lead no 3...............little bit flat but idles
disconnect plug lead no 4...............little bit flat but idles
disconnect plug leads 2 + 3............flat but just about idles
disconnect plug leads 1 +4.............wont start
so iam now thinking HEAD GASKET blown between cylinders 2 and 3 the bike runs fine between 4/8000rpm so parhaps the pressure of the 2 cylinders is masking the damaged gasket at mid range but at higher rpm the pressure is too great and the stutter returns ......sounds a bit mad...but could be
[size=78%] i might take the head off and have a look,i can check the valves at the same time and regrind the seats to make it worth while [/size]
good afternoon chaps.........working today but had extended lunch brake and done another compression test
1 2 3 4
results before valve re-grind 140 85 61 143
results after valve re-grind 137 134 132 136
happy with those results shame i lost a few psi`s on 1 and 4 :o but figures very close now
still waiting for air filter ,probs be mon or tues now
One, is never going to be enough.....
08-09-12, 04:25 PM
(This post was last modified: 08-09-12, 04:27 PM by CRH.)
them readings are pretty good matey!!...nice and even!...right?..told paul you going to use a colour tune?..and he said if you do use one?..(he wouldnt by the way)....to err on the side of rich?..as the fazer motor is designed to run with a richer mixture than most!! he also says that using the colour they show tends to make bike engines run very weak?...and you may experience pinking when you give it some?...he said tend to aim for blue to orange , more the latter!!...specialy as your about to fit a k&N...
(08-09-12, 02:56 PM)red98 link Wrote: [quote author=red98 link=topic=2066.msg34472#msg34472 date=1344780412]
at last back on my 600 fazer problem.....CRH has helped me out with a long list of possible solutions after quizing a mechanic friend....so my thanks go to both of you ......top of the list....BENT VALVE.....so ive done another compression test
cylinder 1...................140 psi
cylinder 2.....................85 psi
cylinder 3.....................61 psi
cylinder 4...................143 psi
these are average figures as i did the test four times,should be about 160/170 psi ,with 40,000 miles on the clock i was not expecting top pressure, within 10% and i would of been happy,the low readings on cyl 2 + 3 has got me thinking :eek
i then disconnected the plug caps in turn to see what these figures mead in real terms....
disconnect plug lead no 1...............little bit flat but idles
disconnect plug lead no 2...............flat but wont idle
disconnect plug lead no 3...............little bit flat but idles
disconnect plug lead no 4...............little bit flat but idles
disconnect plug leads 2 + 3............flat but just about idles
disconnect plug leads 1 +4.............wont start
so iam now thinking HEAD GASKET blown between cylinders 2 and 3 the bike runs fine between 4/8000rpm so parhaps the pressure of the 2 cylinders is masking the damaged gasket at mid range but at higher rpm the pressure is too great and the stutter returns ......sounds a bit mad...but could be
[size=78%] i might take the head off and have a look,i can check the valves at the same time and regrind the seats to make it worth while [/size]
good afternoon chaps.........working today but had extended lunch break and done another compression test
1 2 3 4
results before valve re-grind 140 85 61 143
results after valve re-grind 137 134 132 136
happy with those results shame i lost a few psi`s on 1 and 4 :o but figures very close now
still waiting for air filter ,probs be mon or tues now
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(08-09-12, 04:25 PM)CRH link Wrote: them readings are pretty good matey!!...nice and even!...right?..told paul you going to use a colour tune?..and he said if you do use one?..(he wouldnt by the way)....to err on the side of rich?..as the fazer motor is designed to run with a richer mixture than most!! he also says that using the colour they show tends to make bike engines run very weak?...and you may experience pinking when you give it some?...he said tend to aim for blue to orange , more the latter!!...specialy as your about to fit a k&N...
thanks crh....top man .....main reason for using colour tune is to see the difference between 2.5 turns and 4 turns
will set to over rich which i think will be somewhere near 4 turns but i dont know why :rolleyes [size=78%],will wait untill i have the k+n [/size]
pleased with the compression figures [size=78%] thats going to make it run a lot smoother and a bit more power[/size]
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yes very wierd why they should be that far out int it?....still like you previously said?..it ran fine for all those years so???????????...defo make a diffrence now you done valves!!...cant wait till you get that fkn filter in it?..there must be hundreds of us on here wanting a result!!!...just think red?..no more stutters?...what the fuck you gonna do with yourself? :rolleyes ....
(08-09-12, 10:05 PM)CRH link Wrote: yes very wierd why they should be that far out int it?....still like you previously said?..it ran fine for all those years so???????????...defo make a diffrence now you done valves!!...cant wait till you get that fkn filter in it?..there must be hundreds of us on here wanting a result!!!...just think red?..no more stutters?...what the fuck you gonna do with yourself? :rolleyes .... same as me.......bike had k+n and aftermarket can fitted and ran sweet as a nut for over two years.....then literally overnight developed the dreaded stutter. finally cured ( touch wood ) with some re-jetting !!! whats that all about. crazy shit :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin
(08-09-12, 10:17 PM)ade the blade link Wrote: [quote author=CRH link=topic=2066.msg38325#msg38325 date=1347138356]
yes very wierd why they should be that far out int it?....still like you previously said?..it ran fine for all those years so???????????...defo make a diffrence now you done valves!!...cant wait till you get that fkn filter in it?..there must be hundreds of us on here wanting a result!!!...just think red?..no more stutters?...what the fuck you gonna do with yourself? :rolleyes .... same as me.......bike had k+n and aftermarket can fitted and ran sweet as a nut for over two years.....then literally overnight developed the dreaded stutter. finally cured ( touch wood ) with some re-jetting !!! whats that all about. crazy shit :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin
[/quote]...your right ade! doesnt make sense does it?...fkn bikes are wearing out nearly as quick as us? :rolleyes
its a crazy world :rolleyes .....would be very frustrating if i fix the stutter but dont know the reason :\ ......bit like you re-jetting ade .........think iam getting close now
One, is never going to be enough.....
(08-09-12, 10:24 PM)red98 link Wrote: its a crazy world :rolleyes .....would be very frustrating when i fix the stutter but dont know the reason :\ ......bit like you re-jetting ade .........think iam getting close now fixed it for you mate..........keep at it pal...........we`ll all keep throwing any old sh&te on the table until its running right for ya........as you were Clive ! :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin
(08-09-12, 10:33 PM)ade the blade link Wrote: [quote author=red98 link=topic=2066.msg38328#msg38328 date=1347139493]
its a crazy world :rolleyes .....would be very frustrating when i fix the stutter but dont know the reason :\ ......bit like you re-jetting ade .........think iam getting close now fixed it for you mate..........keep at it pal...........we`ll all keep throwing any old sh&te on the table until its running right for ya........as you were Clive ! :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin
[/quote]......Sheep shagger :b ....
(08-09-12, 10:38 PM)CRH link Wrote: [quote author=ade the blade link=topic=2066.msg38329#msg38329 date=1347140020]
[quote author=red98 link=topic=2066.msg38328#msg38328 date=1347139493]
its a crazy world :rolleyes .....would be very frustrating when i fix the stutter but dont know the reason :\ ......bit like you re-jetting ade .........think iam getting close now fixed it for you mate..........keep at it pal...........we`ll all keep throwing any old sh&te on the table until its running right for ya........as you were Clive ! :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin
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meh..meh........meh :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
you still not convinced its sorted then ade? :rolleyes
(08-09-12, 10:51 PM)CRH link Wrote: you still not convinced its sorted then ade? :rolleyes believe me mate, i`d like to think `ole Reds on the home straight. But what niggles me is i tried the switching out the air filter thingy.albeit in reverse with no difference whatsoever, unfortunately. I really, really hope it turns out to be the `key` to it all. still need more convincing though......sorry all...... come on Red, prove me totally wrong and kick my arse bigtime for being a non-believer .........i`ll deserve it !! :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin
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