One for the "There are some right idiots out there" file...

[MadDogMcQ]

57.4mpg?? Wow! Do you coast a lot?  :pokefun  :lol

[budgiemurray]

Red98
My wife bought me the skills for life package for xmas so i put it to good use and did actually learn stuff.. I know not everyones a fan but thats an individual taste thing aint it..

Budgie

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[Robbie8666]

isn't the road between Alton & Basingstoke?? I've riden along there a few times if it is & it is a fast road also the signage opposite the junction mentions the danger of fast moving traffic!

[Grahamm]

Looks to me like you spotted the bikers, but didn't spend enough time working out there speed and intentions.  You wrongly assumed they would do be slower/slowing and should have spent that little extra time to eliminate the assumption and react on the actual circumstances.

No, you're not crazy, but you made a mistake. 

I agree that I made a mistake, but IMO the mistake was assuming they weren't idiots who would attempt a ridiculous manoeuvre like that!

I'll certainly be changing my assumptions and incorporating that in my riding plans in future

[Lawrence]

the mistake was assuming they weren't idiots

:lol

On the road everyone is an idiot unless they prove otherwise.

[dazza]

I would have let them pass, for no other reason than I thoroughly enjoy coming up behind other bikers and having a little bit of fun. I guess that makes me an idiot too. :\  But aren't we all at times ?

[caretaker]

to be fair, we dont know how far away the bikers were to graham. if i'd have thought there was ample room to pull out, i would have. someone rides like a twat, thats his problem. BTW, i'm not captain sensible. i often overtake on a double white (yes i know i shouldnt etc etc) and i dont have chicken strips on my tyres. but i still ride as safe as i possibly can to cover most eventualities.

[shady]

Sorry folks but l agree with Graham, theres a surprising number of bikers that think they are immortal and immune to the laws of the road !  Yes we all speed, we all take the odd risk, l mean l commute through traffic everyday and l can tell you its scary. But many bikers put themselves into trouble unecessarily, read the road wrong and accelerate into trouble. Many a time l ve had crazy bikers cut in front of me because they fail to get past the car in front of me in an effort to stay with their mate who earlier overtook the car on the wrong side of the road on the approach to a bend ! Think of yourself coming the other way then you would be scared to see this idiot on your side of the road coming towards you. Just one of many examples of crazy riding that at times makes me feel ashamed to being a biker, the point here is this yes Graham pulled out after seeing the guys coming towards him, they were equally at fault for accelerating on the approach to vehicles meeting their road from the left whilst already in a 40mph zone. 

[rayburn600]

Grayham.  Quote "On a ride-out earlier today we stopped off at the Departure Lounge Cafe on the A39"
Are you sure this is the A39?
It does not seem so to me.
Or have you got this wrong to?
The other bikers must have scared you a bit.
Take care matey. Ride safe.
R

[manuel32]

My mate overtook  while driving a car on double whites, the driver of the car he over took was an off duty policewoman , she clocked his number plate and done him,,,TWELVE MONTH BAN  :lol  poor chap, he is always in the wrong place at the wrong time

[richfzs]

Grayham.  Quote "On a ride-out earlier today we stopped off at the Departure Lounge Cafe on the A39"
Are you sure this is the A39?

Typo, A339

[Grahamm]

[quote author=rayburn600 link=topic=4486.msg37812#msg37812 date=1346876862]
Typo, A339

Oops! Thanks for the correction. (I'd have edited the post, but...!!)

[clayt74]

I treat everyone else on the road as a blind unpredictable y'at!!! All rules  are out of the window! I ride to survive !!and that includes reacting quickly to situations! If I have miss read the road or a twat, then I feel it's my bad for  not bein more defensive. Yes I can ride like a loon, but when the conditions allow.
Peace!

[His Dudeness]

it sounds like you pulled out when it wasn't safe to and he had to take evasive action because of it so it was you're fault. the fact that he was driving like an asshole is irrelevant. if you had taken a proper look before pulling out you would have seen his speed

[Grahamm]

he had to take evasive action because of it so it was you're fault. the fact that he was driving like an asshole is irrelevant.

I beg to differ, he had to take evasive action *because* he was riding like an asshole. My mistake was not *assuming* that he was an asshole and would try for a dangerous and illegal overtake.

[MadDogMcQ]

If an asshole driving in front of me STOMPED on his brakes just for the fun of it, would it be my fault if I crashed into the back of him? YES!! He was acting like an asshole, but it would be my fault for not keeping a safe distance. It's the same thing Graham.

Or look at it this way - and be honest with yourself - if you had made that exact same manoeuvre during your Riding Test, do you think you would have passed??

[Phil TK]

I beg to differ, he had to take evasive action *because* he was riding like an asshole. My mistake was not *assuming* that he was an asshole and would try for a dangerous and illegal overtake.

[Phil TK]

I beg to differ, he had to take evasive action *because* he was riding like an asshole. My mistake was not *assuming* that he was an asshole and would try for a dangerous and illegal overtake.

This evangelical approach to other peoples riding could get you (and others) killed one day. Give it up, you are not setting a good example. Always assume that other road users are assholes.
And yes, you would have been failed if you pulled out on these guys on a test.

[Lazarus]

I pull out, figuring that I've got plenty of space to do so safely because there was nowhere for the approaching bikes to pass, so they'd have to slow down behind the car,

This is the bit I dont quite get....


You decided that since they would have to slow down behind the car, then you would also pull out meaning that they would have to slow down even quicker behind you?


not being arsey, but i would get the hump then as well.

[Lawrence]

I beg to differ, he had to take evasive action *because* he was riding like an asshole. My mistake was not *assuming* that he was an asshole and would try for a dangerous and illegal overtake.

Makes no difference if he's driving like a dick or not, at a give way line you're supposed to give way to traffic that has priority over you.

If they would've had to slow down for the car even if you didn't go then he was in the wrong also.