Busted Fazer - what are my options?

[markbubble]

bike doest look at all bad for the milage you have done,the exhaust studs can be done easyish the forks do look a little worse for wear but that again can be sorted,would be a real shame to scrap/break it so lets get it back on the road and get you using it again

[Farjo]

Well thanks very much - I'm not going to say no! Am off to bed but will pick this up in the morning.

[Bias]

that looks salvageable IMO.
What you've described as the fork seals are the dust seals that sit above the fork seals and are an easy fix.
My engine looked worse than that when I bought it and now looks great. Plain black gloss and its holding up to the temperature and the weather. Simple case of getting the crap and flaking paint off and it'll look brill afterwards.
Your fork stansions do look a lost cause tho, e-bay is gonna be your friend Im afraid. I've got later forks on mine with the preload adjusters on the tops, again a result of pitted chrome.
Your exhaust studs depend of how involved you want to make it. I'd just take the head off and get it to an engineering firm. Even if you take the engine out you're still gonna have the strip it anyway so why do all the extra hassle of engine removal. Just my 2p but GL whichever you go

[markbubble]

why does the head have to be removed to  do the studs?i had 3 snapped ones on mine and drill and tapped them out with engine in bike(luckly they wernt hidden behind frame) all i did was remove foks etc to get easyer access to them so with engine on a bench it will be a breeze
is there anyone else in the york area that can help out get the bike done even if its just doing simple things or pair of hands to lift engine etc?
il do all i can to help if im wanted but more hands make things easyer

[red98]

forks can be re-chromed but prob cheaper  to go second hand,easy to swap for newbie with aid of haynes manual and a good forum  ...do you have any pics of the broken studs ? and a pic of complete bike 

[bootz76]

stanchions are about 100 quid each depends if you want them silver or black or gold, try allbike engineering in greenwich london,or phillpots in luton will rechrome them they did my exup ones years ago,they also do brake calipersand pistons,

[Farjo]

Thanks for all the replies

Mark, what else apart from a bench will I need - best assume I have no equipment. Would it be easier if I hire a van and drive it to Hull? If not, how many people would it need to take the engine out and I'll ask at work.

Right, am off for an 8 mile run (or a 4 mile run and a taxi ride)

[Bias]

Long story short, 2 of the exhaust studs have snapped. A kind mechanic from York Suzuki rode to my place to take a look and says that because of the position of the studs (i.e behind the frame) it would be costly to fix as the engine will have to be removed

Sounds like an engine out to me or head off to me ....

[markbubble]

if you can get it over to hull that be the easy way as iv got all the tools here but i could bring some to you,to do exhaust studs we need(min!)good socket set,spaners etc etc(i can bring these)drill and good sharp drill bits (hss) and taps,i have all of these but not sure how much i can fit onto my bike ! iv not pulled an engine out of fazer but done others and cant see why 2 of us cant lift it out ,it doesnt need to be on a bench to do studs but better on the back and arse than it been on floor!
the more you can do to get it ready to pull out the better ie removing as much as possible ,do you have somewhere to work undercover?
as for the forks you would need to get the bits before i can do them but id concentrate on one job at a time! i might be free next sat but at cadwell on sunday if thats any good? it would cost you good money to hire van to come to hull but if you can beg/borrow one then that be good otherwise think be better at yours? have you got use of a trolly jack to assist removal? mark 

[Farjo]

Was at work yesterday afternoon / evening and again all day today (13 hour shift). I haven't got any of the things you mention. Day off tomorrow so will look around for vans / ramps / hire equipment and see what's available.

Sorry am working Sat and Sun this weekend but am free the weekend after, and various days in between.

[markbubble]

13 hour shift are not good for you! iv got most tools so see what we can work out,no probs about sat,im at work in week (mon to fri) i might be free one day the next weekend but will have to check if thats ok

[Farjo]

We get 3 or 4 breaks through the day so it's not so bad, and it means we work fewer days for the same number of hours.

"The more you can do to get it ready to pull out the better ie removing as much as possible" - as shown in the pics the downpipes are still on - shall I have a go with the other studs? How much time and effort is it to fix each snapped stud i.e. do I have to be super carefull to get the last of the nuts off?

I assume I'll need more studs - if so I'll get stainless ones off of ebay.

[markbubble]

leave the exhaust on so you done break any more,if you can wire brush or similar areound the nuts and spray wd40 or something that will help but il bring blow torch etc to hopefully remove the others without snapping,each one i did took nearly a hour but the engine was in bike so pain to get to!
you of course need new studs and maybe gaskets ? while bike is in bits do you want do owt else like plugs,filters,etc you will need new coolant 
even if you remove tank,chain and  maybe some bolts etc it all makes it but easyer for me but if you havnt tools dont botch it or mess it up as will take longer to do then!

[richfzs]

Better than WD40, is a proper penetrating oil such as Plus gas, WD also do one, black and orange cannister from memory...

[Fazer87]

Heyhey,

First post here - and in true vulture style

If you do end up breaking down the fazer - dibs on the carb inlet rubbers.  Mine are cracked and although its probably an age before they properly crack right through, I want a spare set at the ready.

PM me with a price and lets get going

[darrsi]

If you are gonna use stainless studs you MUST use copper grease when fitting, otherwise they will weld themselves to the alloy engine, especially as that's probably the hottest place on the whole bike.

[Farjo]

Penetrating oil: I used Stuk Professional Penetrating Oil on the ones I tried before (with mixed results :rolleyes ) and I'll start again, doing it daily from now on.


Gaskets: I assume you mean these?: http://www.wemoto.com/bikes/yamaha/fzs_6...ium_fibre/
(they also do copper ones)

Dust seals: http://www.wemoto.com/bikes/yamaha/fzs_6...eals_pair/
Is this all I need? Will I need new fork oil or fork oil seals?

Mark do you live near Hull rail station or a bus route from there? If so it would be cheap to hire a van midweek, drop the bike off then train it over to yours at whichever weekend to work on it. Would you have the space?

[markbubble]

i would leave the forks for now as it sounds and looks like better forks be a better option than just doing the seals etc but realy upto you what you want to do with the forks. iv got room outside  i can have bike  and can get a bit of room in garage to work on engine,forks etc,there is a bus stop 2mins walk and that goes stright to town centre where there is a train station but the van hire and then bus /train wont be cheap,have you got room we can work on bike?if so i can bring tools and if needed bring engine or forks home maybe? depending on how much of a rush you are to get it back on road we could get exhaust studs done,engine back in bike then you sorce forks out or do them at later date? mark 

[His Dudeness]

if you're on a tight budget you might get away with using the forks that are on the bike because the rust spots seem quite high up and the fork isn't leaking so the rust spots must not be interfering with the seal.

[Farjo]

Forks: :thumbup I guess if we got it going I could enjoy the Indian summer we'll hopefully have, then send them away to be fixed in the autumn.

Mark I'm just the oily rag so if you say you'll be OK to work here then that's fine with me. There's nowhere covered to work here just the block's car park. There's room just no equipment.

There's a tool hire place nearby that does an engine hoist (see below) - would it be useful or totally useless for a motorbike engine?