stuttering fzs 600

[ade the blade]

yea me to??....think its just experiance that keeps us alive??....plus the fact we know how to fall off ?? :lol :lol

:rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin

[red98]

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welcome to the club..............

dont worry about the posts not making sense....they dont make sense to us either  :rollin :rollin :rollin ........iam still struggling with my stutter and am 90% sure its a carb problem,if you`ve been reading the thread you will know what ive been doing to try to trace the fault.....ive rebuilt the carbs with some second hand items and this has made no difference also checked the electrics and found nothing wrong.......as your a newbie i can strongly recomend that you get yourself a haynes manual you can find them on ebay.....manual no 3702....
start a new thread describing the fault and also what you have already tried and we shall try to help   

good luck matey  ........let us know how you get on .........


Well, to add my 5 eggs or whatever, I can tell you now, I have just had a whole new set of carbs put in, so that may not be what is causing it.


I do have a haynes manual, however, all of that doesn't make any sense to me either, and I don't have a garage to leave a project half finished, cos I live in London.


I am going to be going to Oval Motorcycle Centre though.


If I find anything, I will let you know.
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[Skinbeatersam]

My mate suggested that it might be the ignition coils. Has anyone checked this yet??

[ade the blade]

mmmmmmmm

[clayt74]

try taking it back to the basics, if Ade got his sorted by larger jets (due to K&N filter and poss non stock exhaust) and the fact that Sam has had NEW carbs (which would have standard jets) have either Red or Sam got any form of mod to air filter, air box or can??
it sounds like you both have stutters at higher revs trying for max torque which really sounds like they are leaning out (too much air rather than too little fuel)
only my thoughts, good luck guys

[Skinbeatersam]

Mine has just the stock end can, no mods at all . . . . . .


In this video took earlier today, you can see how it doesn't wanna go, UNLESS you rev it above 7k, and even then it's not happy about it (and you get to hear me swear at it lots . . . . . . .)


Earlier on today the throttle was fully open, in first gear, clutch totally engaged, and my speed?? 15MPH!!!! I had lorries overtaking me.  :eek




I WAS HOLDING UP LORRIES!!!!!  :'(


Swearing at your bike when it won't work!!

[red98]

try taking it back to the basics, if Ade got his sorted by larger jets (due to K&N filter and poss non stock exhaust) and the fact that Sam has had NEW carbs (which would have standard jets) have either Red or Sam got any form of mod to air filter, air box or can??
it sounds like you both have stutters at higher revs trying for max torque which really sounds like they are leaning out (too much air rather than too little fuel)
only my thoughts, good luck guys

clayt74.....this has been in the back of my mind since day one....the only non standard part on my bike is the AIR FILTER,changed just before the stutter started...cheap pattern one but it did look like standard,i cant understand why it would make so much difference but there was a chap on here who had the same fault,he put the origanal filter back in and solved the problem 

[red98]

Mine has just the stock end can, no mods at all . . . . . .


In this video took earlier today, you can see how it doesn't wanna go, UNLESS you rev it above 7k, and even then it's not happy about it (and you get to hear me swear at it lots . . . . . . .)


Earlier on today the throttle was fully open, in first gear, clutch totally engaged, and my speed?? 15MPH!!!! I had lorries overtaking me.  :eek 




good video SBS.....fully understand you swearing .....i did that at one point,made me feel better but didnt cure the problem  :\ :\ .......your stutter is worse than mine and iam certain yours is a carb problem....if you had new carbs fitted at a garage, if i was you i would take it back,any deacent garage would`nt have returned the bike to you in that condition  :eek




I WAS HOLDING UP LORRIES!!!!!  :'(


Swearing at your bike when it won't work!!

[Dead Eye]

[quote author=red98 link=topic=2066.msg26484#msg26484 date=1338495771]

welcome to the club..............

dont worry about the posts not making sense....they dont make sense to us either  :rollin :rollin :rollin ........iam still struggling with my stutter and am 90% sure its a carb problem,if you`ve been reading the thread you will know what ive been doing to try to trace the fault.....ive rebuilt the carbs with some second hand items and this has made no difference also checked the electrics and found nothing wrong.......as your a newbie i can strongly recomend that you get yourself a haynes manual you can find them on ebay.....manual no 3702....
start a new thread describing the fault and also what you have already tried and we shall try to help   

Well, to add my 5 eggs or whatever, I can tell you now, I have just had a whole new set of carbs put in, so that may not be what is causing it.


I do have a haynes manual, however, all of that doesn't make any sense to me either, and I don't have a garage to leave a project half finished, cos I live in London.


I am going to be going to Oval Motorcycle Centre though.


If I find anything, I will let you know.
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If its had new carbs its time to look at the air and fuel mixture. As someone has suggested before (I have no idea which thread ), take the bike out for a spin for 5 mins or so to get the engine warmed up then get back home and little it idle for about another 5 mins. Wait until its cooled down a bit and then remove one of the spark plugs. If its sooty then it may be over fuelling. If this is the case, check the air filter. You'll need to remove the tank and the air filter box is just infront of the battery.

This shouldn't take too long and is easily done with some basic tools plus you don't have to pay labour to the garage

[Skinbeatersam]

I have taken it back to the garage, and they are fixing it free of charge, but it seems to be a recurring problem.


I am looking for a different one now . . . . Shame cos I loved that Fazer . . . .

[CRH]

ade!!,have you heard owt off red?? not been on today?....got some info for him off road race mech!! bt the sttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttter?? :rolleyes ...trouble is going to have to ring him?? else ile be typing f,evermore on here??.....then if it gets sorted he can share it on forum???

[red98]

I have taken it back to the garage, and they are fixing it free of charge, but it seems to be a recurring problem.


I am looking for a different one now . . . . Shame cos I loved that Fazer . . . .

good news sbs........let us know the outcome 

[red98]

ade!!,have you heard owt off red?? not been on today?....got some info for him off road race mech!! bt the sttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttter?? :rolleyes ...trouble is going to have to ring him?? else ile be typing f,evermore on here??.....then if it gets sorted he can share it on forum???

morning crh..............awwwwwwww iam all excited now....welcome to ring me or pm if thats any easier....what ever the outcome will post  on here as might help others 

[ade the blade]

[quote author=CRH link=topic=2066.msg26761#msg26761 date=1338674985]
ade!!,have you heard owt off red?? not been on today?....got some info for him off road race mech!! bt the sttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttter?? :rolleyes ...trouble is going to have to ring him?? else ile be typing f,evermore on here??.....then if it gets sorted he can share it on forum???

morning crh..............awwwwwwww iam all excited now....welcome to ring me or pm if thats any easier....what ever the outcome will post  on here as might help others 
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be rude not to ya little tart consideringi told the world and his dog what the fix for the bosses bike was. :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

[marksfazer]

I'm sure this has been probably covered, but can't be bothered to look through 11 pages, is your fuel tank rusty inside? Sucking bits of crap into the carbs?

[red98]

[quote author=red98 link=topic=2066.msg26777#msg26777 date=1338710076]
[quote author=CRH link=topic=2066.msg26761#msg26761 date=1338674985]
ade!!,have you heard owt off red?? not been on today?....got some info for him off road race mech!! bt the sttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttter?? :rolleyes ...trouble is going to have to ring him?? else ile be typing f,evermore on here??.....then if it gets sorted he can share it on forum???

morning crh..............awwwwwwww iam all excited now....welcome to ring me or pm if thats any easier....what ever the outcome will post  on here as might help others 
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be rude not to ya little tart consideringi told the world and his dog what the fix for the bosses bike was. :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
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[red98]

I'm sure this has been probably covered, but can't be bothered to look through 11 pages, is your fuel tank rusty inside? Sucking bits of crap into the carbs?

good point....i did clean the tank but didnt post it.....spotless inside so just rinsed the gauze filter and tank and refitted 

[CRH]

good morning red!!.....see the blades still festering in bed then??? :z ......surely his missis isnt still paying him back for sevices rendered?? :b :b :b :b :b :b :b :b :b :b :b :b :b

[red98]

just had a call from CRH.....what a top man  .....hes spoken to some good friends who know what they are on about, about my stutter ( clive i`ll let you do the name dropping    )...hes given me loads of information and advice,far too much to put on here...i will go through them one at a time and post the results on here.....best one being mixture / air filter  .........barrel of magners on its way clive  .....many thanks for your time and effort will let you know the outcome 
ade.....do you know the reasoning behind your fix yet ?

[red98]

good morning red!!.....see the blades still festering in bed then??? :z ......surely his missis isnt still paying him back for sevices rendered?? :b :b :b :b :b :b :b :b :b :b :b :b :b

hes already been paid for that......"squirty cream on his blackcurrents" :rollin :rollin :rollin