Change of tyre manufacturer, more cornering confidence?

[Val]

Think i will change tyre manufacturer though thinking may be Michelin PR3's anyone got anything bad to say about them?

Not actually. I had Metzler previously which was feeling a little like hard plastic when cold and on few ocassions the rear has slipped. In a good predictable way.

Now I have PR3s and I am impressed. They stick like a glue. The only minus is my chicken strips now are huge. Although I have the feeling I lean more on them. How is that even possible have no idea  :eek

[joebloggs]

I still believe all this talk of changing tyre brands is irrelevant. if you don't have the confidence/skill call it what you will, changing tyres will not help, if anything it will only put more doubt in your head and force you to slow or lean less.

I used to fit TKV's to all my bikes, they weren't the best rubber out there but they were cheap, round and black. I was out on a ride with all the so called fast riders on their R1/6 Blades etc and I was on a battered old GPZ600R, we stopped for a tea and they were all complaining about their tyre this etc etc my only complaint was they were in my way mid corner because they couldn't either read a bend or lean it over.

[Fazerider]

I still believe all this talk of changing tyre brands is irrelevant. if you don't have the confidence/skill call it what you will, changing tyres will not help, if anything it will only put more doubt in your head and force you to slow or lean less.

I used to fit TKV's to all my bikes, they weren't the best rubber out there but they were cheap, round and black. I was out on a ride with all the so called fast riders on their R1/6 Blades etc and I was on a battered old GPZ600R, we stopped for a tea and they were all complaining about their tyre this etc etc my only complaint was they were in my way mid corner because they couldn't either read a bend or lean it over.

Those of us not lucky enough to have your natural talent and ability to ride like a GP god on tyres from Poundland find that selecting a something that suits our riding style can improve confidence. Nobody's suggesting tyres are the only factor (hence all the other advice about technique), but they are a factor.

[joebloggs]

[quote author=joebloggs link=topic=19846.msg229742#msg229742 date=1461016161]
I still believe all this talk of changing tyre brands is irrelevant. if you don't have the confidence/skill call it what you will, changing tyres will not help, if anything it will only put more doubt in your head and force you to slow or lean less.

I used to fit TKV's to all my bikes, they weren't the best rubber out there but they were cheap, round and black. I was out on a ride with all the so called fast riders on their R1/6 Blades etc and I was on a battered old GPZ600R, we stopped for a tea and they were all complaining about their tyre this etc etc my only complaint was they were in my way mid corner because they couldn't either read a bend or lean it over.

Those of us not lucky enough to have your natural talent and ability to ride like a GP god on tyres from Poundland find that selecting a something that suits our riding style can improve confidence. Nobody's suggesting tyres are the only factor (hence all the other advice about technique), but they are a factor.
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I would suggest that if you can't use all of your tyre then any poundland tyre WOULD suit your riding style, it's not like you need the grip of the latest sport compound tyre if you stop at every corner you come to, and as has been pointed out in a previous post, some modern tyres need to be warmed up before they start producing the grip you think you need, hardly confidence inspiring.

Getting over the 'stepping off the edge of the world' feeling you get when you feel you've over cooked it is difficult but you can learn to trust your rubber and your bike's ability to make the turn.

As I suggested earlier, the OP should try riding using engine breaking only on a road he knows well, just slowly tipping in smoothly to the apex, power out, repeat. All you need to concentrate on is the apex, no grabbing of brakes etc.

[Skippernick]

[quote author=Fazerider link=topic=19846.msg229756#msg229756 date=1461058302]
[quote author=joebloggs link=topic=19846.msg229742#msg229742 date=1461016161]
I still believe all this talk of changing tyre brands is irrelevant. if you don't have the confidence/skill call it what you will, changing tyres will not help, if anything it will only put more doubt in your head and force you to slow or lean less.

I used to fit TKV's to all my bikes, they weren't the best rubber out there but they were cheap, round and black. I was out on a ride with all the so called fast riders on their R1/6 Blades etc and I was on a battered old GPZ600R, we stopped for a tea and they were all complaining about their tyre this etc etc my only complaint was they were in my way mid corner because they couldn't either read a bend or lean it over.

Those of us not lucky enough to have your natural talent and ability to ride like a GP god on tyres from Poundland find that selecting a something that suits our riding style can improve confidence. Nobody's suggesting tyres are the only factor (hence all the other advice about technique), but they are a factor.
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I would suggest that if you can't use all of your tyre then any poundland tyre WOULD suit your riding style, it's not like you need the grip of the latest sport compound tyre if you stop at every corner you come to, and as has been pointed out in a previous post, some modern tyres need to be warmed up before they start producing the grip you think you need, hardly confidence inspiring.

Getting over the 'stepping off the edge of the world' feeling you get when you feel you've over cooked it is difficult but you can learn to trust your rubber and your bike's ability to make the turn.

As I suggested earlier, the OP should try riding using engine breaking only on a road he knows well, just slowly tipping in smoothly to the apex, power out, repeat. All you need to concentrate on is the apex, no grabbing of brakes etc.
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Which i will be doing when i have the time!

[Val]

As I suggested earlier, the OP should try riding using engine breaking only on a road he knows well, just slowly tipping in smoothly to the apex, power out, repeat. All you need to concentrate on is the apex, no grabbing of brakes etc.

That sounds very complicated to me. I just aim for the hedge  :rollin

[nick crisp]

[quote author=joebloggs link=topic=19846.msg229759#msg229759 date=1461064312]


As I suggested earlier, the OP should try riding using engine breaking only on a road he knows well, just slowly tipping in smoothly to the apex, power out, repeat. All you need to concentrate on is the apex, no grabbing of brakes etc.

Which i will be doing when i have the time!
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This is what it's really about. More time spent riding = greater confidence. I would suggest that most sports touring tyres these days are perfectly adequate for most riders to explore their limits.

[Skippernick]

[quote author=Skippernick link=topic=19846.msg229800#msg229800 date=1461094161]
[quote author=joebloggs link=topic=19846.msg229759#msg229759 date=1461064312]


As I suggested earlier, the OP should try riding using engine breaking only on a road he knows well, just slowly tipping in smoothly to the apex, power out, repeat. All you need to concentrate on is the apex, no grabbing of brakes etc.

Which i will be doing when i have the time!
[/quote]


This is what it's really about. More time spent riding = greater confidence. I would suggest that most sports touring tyres these days are perfectly adequate for most riders to explore their limits.
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I agree, but a young family takes precedence. However, when they are a bit older and being two daughters it'll be 3 against one so i'll get more in then. :lol