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french fuel
#1
I'm off to France in May with my gen1 fazer 1000. 


I'm a bit concerned about putting the E10 fuel in my 02 Fazer. 


I know that Ethanol can attack various materials used in fuel systems like hoses and rubber seals etc.  Has anyone had a problem with using the E10 stuff in their bike?  I had a look on the MCI website and Yamaha claim that any motorcycle built after 1990 will be ok if the ethanol content is no more than 10% but I thought it wise to ask about actual experiences.....


thanks
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#2
No problem...just ride and enjoy the roads

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#3
Whats e10 fuel?

They have normal unleaded like us, least they have every year I go there!
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#4
I wouldn't so much worry about that , but take a credit or debit card as there are plenty of  unmanned petrol stations , also don't let it go to low , not a lot of garages open on a Sunday .
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#5
And your other choices???????????
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(16-02-14, 06:10 PM)esetest link Wrote:I wouldn't so much worry about that , but take a credit or debit card as there are plenty of  unmanned petrol stations , also don't let it go to low , not a lot of garages open on a Sunday .


if your using a credit/debit card use a master card for some reason some of them dont take visa

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(16-02-14, 06:04 PM)locksmith link Wrote: Whats e10 fuel?

They have normal unleaded like us, least they have every year I go there!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_etha...l_mixtures

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Some say that he eats habanero chilli peppers dipped in oil of capsaicin for extra bite and that his pyjamas are made from Nomex. All we know is, he's called Ad the Bad
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#8
Steer clear of e10 fuel if you can as although it did no harm, the bike ran like crap last summer.
French card acceptance is pretty random  at best. Keep €10 handy to give to a local at a pump so you can tag on their bill
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#9
Also let the bank know if you are planning to use your cards abroad , as they may decline the payment if you don't .
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#10
You could use the more expensive petrol.I did last year & after two tank fulls my bike felt smoother & was better on fuel.

malc
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(16-02-14, 07:07 PM)Kosmic Kartman link Wrote: [quote author=locksmith link=topic=11709.msg127245#msg127245 date=1392570252]
Whats e10 fuel?

They have normal unleaded like us, least they have every year I go there!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_etha...l_mixtures

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Please don't tell me you read all of that :lol

As far as I know they have two unleaded pumps (as we do), normal and super. Just look for the 95ron if you are unsure.
And yes, credit cards can be a problem-especially on a Sunday Smile
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#12
E10 is getting more prevalent as its a bit cheaper. I always try to put super in my bikes abroad as it does make it run better .Especially at any altitude.
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#13
Locksmith, I've not read it. The link was put there for you to read.  Wink
Some say that he eats habanero chilli peppers dipped in oil of capsaicin for extra bite and that his pyjamas are made from Nomex. All we know is, he's called Ad the Bad
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#14
The only one to be careful of is "E85" which is ethenol with some petrol. It is usually cheapest and it is fine to use for a tank or two but the Fazer wont run as well or get the usual milage. E10 (petrol with some ethenol) or SP-E10 (Petrol with a little ethenol) is fine as it is the same stuff you are probably using already in the UK but the French a) tell you and b) charge less for it.

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#15
Thanks everyone.  ok I'll play safe & go with the 'super'.  yeah know what you all mean about availability of stuff outside towns - can be a bit tricky so keep topping up seems to be the thing on that one.
Well - roll on Le Mans in May! 
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#16
Never had trouble with E10 fuel or getting petrol any day of the week, but yes do tell your bank that you are going abroad as the feckers blocked my card after 2 transactions.
Lew
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#17
Saw an article in a newspaper (the i) which said that the 15% ethanol mix on sale in the US was damaging engines as it runs hotter and apparently leaner as well as having a corrosive effect.  Just thought I'd mention it.  Definitely going to run mine on 'super' in France and keep a pocket full of Euros too - just in case. 
cheers all.
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#18
2 weeks after getting back from france/germany last year the o rings on the float needles gave up, in time these do go brittle, maybe coincedence probably french fuel.
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#19
e10 petrol refers to the percentage of ethnol in the fuel.uk petrol already has five or ten percnt ethnol in it depending on which petrol storage or refinery it was collected from.chances are you are using 10% ethnol anyway.
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#20
Got back from Le Mans on Monday night.  Used 98 Super the whole time I was there with no problems at all.  French roads were excellent, when I got back to the UK found that the m4 was closed between Junctions 14 and 15, yes  J 15 was where I wanted to go - typical........
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