speed triple comparison

[sadlonelygit]

oooooh, do we get to slag off Aprilia now!
had a pegaso............rectifier, but that's not unusual. the front forks cracked where the spindle went through on the threaded side, bottom yoke developed a stress crack around the stem, and had to wait 9 weeks for a tailight assembly.
engine was a peach............but it was a rotax!

[stevierst]

On the other hand, my bro-in-law has a mille with 47k trouble free miles on the clock.

[PaulSmith]

I bought my Aprilia Futura new in '02, and it was last touched by the hands of a 'mechanic' in '04. After that, I did full maintenance myself, helped by a superb support forum over on ApriliaForum. It had minor issues with reg/rec, wiring and a quick release on a fuel line, all of which could be quickley (and cheaply) fixed. Its achilles heel was the rear axle bearing. Like our EXUP valve, if lucky or looked after, it did its job and never intruded on your awareness. If unlucky, or not looked after, well... need I say more?   

I ran the Futura until 2010 as my main (and only) transport, and it was inexpensive, reliable and a hell of a lot of fun. It had the most comfortable saddle I have ever used and combined with its near perfect riding position, wind protection and handling meant you could ride for 500 miles to reach the roads you wanted to go mad on, unclip the panniers and ride like a loon. Go to bed happy then do it all again the next day. In the twisties, it could keep up with all but the best ridden sports bikes, helped a lot lashings of torque from very low revs.

After 8 years I knew I needed a change as the Fazer was begining to show its age and I suspected another Irish winter would begin to make it struggle. I only bought the Fazer because I knew no matter what I got to replace the Futura, I wouldn't like it because was not another Futura, and I hoped the Fazer would be the practical option until I found my next love.

Fortunatly, I was wrong about the Fazer and I have grown really fond of it. Comparing the two, the Futura is probably the better all-rounder, aided by better wind protection, better seat, and built in (removable) luggage. The Fazer provides better power, better milage, smoother engine, and a top end that would give a corpse a stiffy.

[pitternator]

I ran a speed triple for 3 yrs alongside my full monty fazer 1000, so feel qualified to comment...rode 13k miles on the speedy and about 20 k on the fazer in that 3 yrs.

!. The speedy is an " experience" bike, full stop. Its appeal is in the way it makes the rider feel, rather than a side by side power/torque etc comparison.The speedy is a bit of a loveable wild animal, the fazer feels a bit anodyne by comparison.

2. On the road up to 120 the speedy can be as fast or faster than the fazer simply down to torque delivery . Theres no waiting , its all off the throttle. But no doubt on a drag strip, the fazer would be first past the post.Lots of revs, etc etc. Over 120 the fazer is well into its stride and in full monty guise would give the vfr1200 a run for its money.On the road at least I have never been outpaced by any other bike if I am on the case, save exotica/ hyper powersportsbikes ridden hard.Its that competitive.The combo of 140 at the rear wheel, great low down torque and easy handling makes for a potent fast road bike.

3. The noise of that triumph engine is pure sex..it moans like a six over 6k rpm, utterly addictive. If you didnt like the way it snarls and surges, you aint human !..it is IMO the way a proper motorbike should feel, as punchy as a v twin, much more character than a four...perfect road engine for " normal" riding ....

4. As an allrounder the speedy will never win, but its surprisingly civilised, with a great seat , good mpg , its comfy for quite long rides. Its no good for touring though due to the lack of mudguarding / luggage/ ergos.

I regret selling mine, I do miss it like mad...so much so I probably will get another. Has to be the older model( not the latest) in black...mean moody and brutal !! Bring it on !

As for the fazer , its a very fast  capable all round bike.Whops up to 150 real quick, incredible roll on in top past 4k rpm. Utterly stable handling . Great for fast touring . So practical. But ultimately still feels a tad soulless.And now is just starting to feel ....old....but its still a lovely bike to ride, will do anything from touring to trackdays. Just now I find it a bit overpowering for touring as at touring speeds, the fazer engine is almost switched off ! Great for sweepers and autobahns, but an exercise in restraint elsewhere.That engine just wants to go man...not pootle around !
GIVE THIS BIKE THE CROSSPLANE ENGINE ! ...give it feel, give it that v4 like sound...it would be unbeatable...IMO... cant believe yam aint done it ...

[stevierst]

GIVE THIS BIKE THE CROSSPLANE ENGINE ! ...give it feel, give it that v4 like sound...it would be unbeatable...IMO... cant believe yam aint done it ...

You mean they haven't done it 'yet'. We can live in hope

[Rexr]

I have a 1050 speedy and yes it's fun bike does handle very well and is torquey as well, I rode my m8 gen 1 fazer 1000 and wished the speedy had the half fairing and a longer seat unit they it would be one of the best jack of all trades bike out there I love the triple engine so I'm going to be replacing my speedy soon with a last of the gen 1's fazer 1000 as I need a bike with pillion space and the fazer seems to be the best bike to replace my speedy with  :'( 

[nippykarl]

the new tiger sport looks very good, better than the 1000 ? could be a inbetweener from the 1000 and speed modern etc starting to think along these lines other than the street r myself.

[JoeRock]

Give it a couple years and Yamaha will have made their cross plane crank triple engine, put in in a sportsbike, and then taken it out and stuck it in a Fazer-esque machine. Voila, triple engined fazer

[Rexr]

Give it a couple years and Yamaha will have made their cross plane crank triple engine, put in in a sportsbike, and then taken it out and stuck it in a Fazer-esque machine. Voila, triple engined fazer

I think thats a fair way off as they didn't bother putting the present cross plane crank'd motor in a fazer the thing is each cross planed motor is hand built and is very expensive hence why they didn't bother their arses.... :rolleyes so can't see the cross planed triple making it either....

[fazermike]

I have owned four triple engined triumphs and I love them.....I still have a 1999 955i speed triple that is making way for my gen 1 fazer that I was to have picked up tomorrow but not now because of the snow!!  :'(


I love the torque of the engine but the earlier engined triples are a bit agricultural compared to a modern four and are very mechanically noisy! but the exhaust note is second only to a big 'V' twin!


Hopefully I will pick it up next Saturday...weather permitting!!!!

[nickodemon]

the new tiger sport looks very good, better than the 1000 ? could be a inbetweener from the 1000 and speed modern etc starting to think along these lines other than the street r myself.

I really like the looks of the new tiger sport in mcn especially as it has more power than before! If money was no object i would have one plus my tuono v4r and the fazer :lol

[nickodemon]

LOVELY, I like a lot. There's one round here, looks and sounds the nuts.

Had a couple of Aprilias myself, great bikes, don't believe all the horror stories, as solid as a Honda!

I absolutely love it. Only one warranty issue so far. The headlights misted up, so got replacements. Only other issues were plank for a seat, which i am replacing with genuine aprilia gel seat and slightly jerky throttle, which was sorted by disconnecting exhaust valve cables. The exhaust valve remains closed till 5500 rpm, then opens. It is purely for noise regs. Disconnecting the cables leaves the valve in the fully open position and smooths the throttle at low revs.