Removing the Givi Monorack

[Devic]

Just a quick question hoping someone might know the answer too. When I purchased my 1999 Fazer it had a Givi Monorack and top box with it which I only use about 5 times a year so decided I am going to take it off and just fit it back on when needed like if I am going away. Seems a lot more simple than the Givi I had fitted to my Aprilia that had more bolt on points and harder to get too but back to the question which is about the spacers on the rear footrests, will just post a picture then explain what I mean.



What I intend to do is remove the rear bolt marked with the red shape, but leave that bracket in place as it bolts on under the seat and bodywork and that's about it so presume that will be safe to do.

I have marked where the rest of the fitting is bolted too through the rear footrest and the bolt to the front has a spacer so it is the same offset as the rear fitting. The bottom of the right footrest also has the support for the exhaust which is really what this question is all about as I intend to do the following.

1. Remove the rear bolt but leave the Givi mounting bracket in place as it is bolted on under the seat/bodywork.
2. Slacken off the exhaust hanger then remove both the footrest bolts so I can remove all of the rack in one piece fully assembled.
3. Replace the footrests using the slightly longer bolts supplied with the Givi rack as I don't have the originals (I presume this should be fine as I don't know the length of the originals)
4. Re-tighten the exhaust hanger

What I really want to know is did the footrests originally bolt straight to the fitting on the frame or was there some kind of spacers/rubber fitted in between the footrests and the frame mounting so it aligned with the exhuast hanger?

I am presuming that all this will be fine as then when I want to use the rack/topbox its a 20 minute job just to refit everything where I have left the rear fitting bracket in place.
Thanks for any advice off anyone that fitted one of these themselves, I know the rear bolt being left out and the Givi mounting bracket being left in place should be fine just want to double check if there were any spacers/rubbers fitted between the frame and footrests originally so the exhaust hanger aligns and if using the Givi supplied bolts will be fine, if not anyone got any idea of the length of the originals. 

[unfazed]

Footrest hangers bolted directly to the frame, the spacer was only used to match the space used by the brackets attached to the rear bolts of the hangers.

[His Dudeness]

have one of them too. just take out the bolts you've circled and the foot rest ones and you're done. like unfazed said remove the spacers. its a two minute job

[darrsi]

Why not just leave it there?
I remember fitting mine and had an issue with one bolt, but it's all in place now, doing no harm, so seems pointless to disturb it?




http://www.givi.co.uk/attachfile/content...n_340f.pdf




http://www.motorcycleplanet.co.uk/produc...rack-Arms/

[Devic]

Thanks for the replies, took it off this afternoon and like you said was a few minutes and just got a couple of spacers and the two rear bolts in a little bag inside the top box so I know where they are if or when I refit it.

I decided to take it off Darris for a coulple of reasons, other than I only use a a few times a year. The person who fitted it originally somehow managed to get it on there but the plate wasn't level, only a fraction out but enough to annoy me as it shows from the back and I also intend spraying it as parts of it are worn. Funny thing was when i took it off the left hand arm was full of water so have to find out where that is leaking in.
One of my main reasons for removing it is just down to person preference and probably sounds weird but a safety point of view which is why although I purchased the Givi setup for my old Aprilia I ended up taking it off and just using it when needed as it was a 20 minute job.

My main reason is because of how far the back of the monorack stands up from the seat where the box clips in, I know sounds crazy. Few years ago I was seriously injured when a car at fairly high speed rear ended me while sat at traffic lights. My first instinct and what I was always told to do was let go of the bike, although I had some significant injuries it was probably what saved me as the bike went into the air and I wouldn't have fancied my chances on first being hit then having a GSX-R land on top of me or being dragged along with it.

It just reminds me when riding that if ever anything like that did happen again, fingers crossed it won't but least I stand a chance of sliding off the back of it and not being hit in the spine by a metal fitting as I don't fancy that. Probably sounds paranoid but just gives me peace of mind that's all. 

[darrsi]

Crikey, you have thought about it haven't you!!  :lol
I know what you mean about it not being level, that would drive me nuts until i'd sorted that out.

[brianjc]

It took me ages to get the Giving rack level. Had to file the fixing holes oval which was a pain.Now the box sits square when viewed from rear. It shouldn't need this hassle ! Just fitted a hugger which again caused me problems,it was rubbing the wheel.Eventually sussed that the 2 chain guard brackets needed bending inwards about 12mm ! That's life

[His Dudeness]

It took me ages to get the Giving rack level. Had to file the fixing holes oval which was a pain.Now the box sits square when viewed from rear. It shouldn't need this hassle ! Just fitted a hugger which again caused me problems,it was rubbing the wheel.Eventually sussed that the 2 chain guard brackets needed bending inwards about 12mm ! That's life

no need to file anything you can adjust the angle of the mounting plate by loosing the bolts that go into the silver parts below the mounting plate. if you look at the picture in the first post you can see how the mounting plate can rotate on the semi-circular shape

[brianjc]

That may adjust the angle forward and back but not side to side. That depends on the frame fixing for which there is no adjustment ! Hence filing vertically the holes behind the footrest hangers  :rolleyes

[His Dudeness]

there is side to side adjustment you just loosen the bolts holding the mounting plate to the arms. guess what no one had to file theirs except you so does that tell you anything? have a few of those lads yourself :rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes

[brianjc]

Sorry Mr Cleverdick but you are wrong ! Slackening those bolts only allows the plate to be moved from side to side.

My problem was this.Looking from the rear the right side of the carrier was HIGHER than the left,in other words the box was at an angle sideways.

There is NO adjustment for this.
I have had bikes for 50 yrs and am not daft

[His Dudeness]

yeah you're right there's no adjustment for that  you didn't make it clear what your problem was

[brianjc]

OK,but try not to be so rude next time . Not used to it in the North of Scotland  :rollin

[His Dudeness]

yeah big hugs all round. i just didn't like the use of  :rolleyes at the end of you message

[Stedman8]

I know what you mean about it not being level, that would drive me nuts until i'd sorted that out.

Aha so I'm not the only obsessive compulsive around here then

[darrsi]

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I know what you mean about it not being level, that would drive me nuts until i'd sorted that out.

Aha so I'm not the only obsessive compulsive around here then
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