Average speed cameras on ' Evo triangle ', North Wales.

[Anquetil]

A heads up to all who intend visiting North Wales roads this year. The ' Evo triangle ' is made up of sections of the A5, B4501, and the A543 in the Cerrigydrudion and Pentrefoelas areas of Conwy and Denbighshire. The cameras have been installed on the A543 near the Sportsmans Arms on Denbigh Moors - found to be the most dangerous stretch of the route. The system is currently being tested and is set to go live in coming weeks, meanwhile GoSafe speed vans will maintain a presence in the area.

[Stinka]

Wankers

[vinnyb]

Wankers

  Who? The ones who think they're better than they are, who go across there and wipe themselves out? If it's an accident black spot (which it is) they install cameras and then is spoils it for everyone who knows their limits and rides within them.

[Anquetil]

There have been several fatalities and numerous serious accidents in recent years. Despite the authorities asking road users to drive and ride safely and within the speed limits this has fallen on deaf ears. I use these roads frequently and have witnessed many examples of suicidal driving and riding at high speeds. ' Boy racers ' having read about these roads in Evo magazine, who test drive cars here for magazine features, then bring their cars from far and wide to play at racing. As you say, vinnyb, people who think their skills are better than they are. My 'skills' are certainly limited, so I ride accordingly.

[Stinka]

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Wankers

  Who? The ones who think they're better than they are, who go across there and wipe themselves out? If it's an accident black spot (which it is) they install cameras and then is spoils it for everyone who knows their limits and rides within them.
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That’s just natural selection. Doesn’t mean the rest of us should have to suffer

[vinnyb]

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[quote author=Stinka link=topic=25132.msg295980#msg295980 date=1554543115]
Wankers

  Who? The ones who think they're better than they are, who go across there and wipe themselves out? If it's an accident black spot (which it is) they install cameras and then is spoils it for everyone who knows their limits and rides within them.
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That’s just natural selection. Doesn’t mean the rest of us should have to suffer

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  Suffer? How is having to ride at moderate speeds for a few miles suffering? I'd rather that than ride there and find the road closed for the day for accident investigation cos some idiot has misjudged a bend or an overtake and killed themselves.
  Anyway you can still go as fast as you want down there if you really feel you must, you'll just get points now.

[Stinka]

K m8

[Skippernick]

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[quote author=Stinka link=topic=25132.msg295980#msg295980 date=1554543115]
Wankers

  Who? The ones who think they're better than they are, who go across there and wipe themselves out? If it's an accident black spot (which it is) they install cameras and then is spoils it for everyone who knows their limits and rides within them.
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That’s just natural selection. Doesn’t mean the rest of us should have to suffer
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Natural selection if you take the decision to ride/drive like that, what if they then hit an innocent road user?

[vinnyb]

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[quote author=vinnyb link=topic=25132.msg295987#msg295987 date=1554554308]
[quote author=Stinka link=topic=25132.msg295980#msg295980 date=1554543115]
Wankers

  Who? The ones who think they're better than they are, who go across there and wipe themselves out? If it's an accident black spot (which it is) they install cameras and then is spoils it for everyone who knows their limits and rides within them.
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That’s just natural selection. Doesn’t mean the rest of us should have to suffer
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Natural selection if you take the decision to ride/drive like that, what if they then hit an innocent road user?

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  Not to mention the fact that every accident, serious or otherwise, encourages further regulation by the local authorities and attention from the police.