(13-04-18, 06:19 AM)Roky link Wrote: I removed the carb yesterday and to my surprise the joint rubber which connects the carb and enginr block are not cracked trough. Not a single one. They all have cracks on the surface, bot not one crack goes trough. So there could not be any air going in the mix trough rubber. Would be interesting to hear how the others on here that are changing have found the inside conditions. Pictures of the outside condition would be good to compare how bad they have to look before they do actually crack all the way through.
I don't do rain or threat there of. dry rider only with no shame.
(13-04-18, 11:59 AM)fazersharp link Wrote: [quote author=Roky link=topic=21375.msg278256#msg278256 date=1523596770]
I removed the carb yesterday and to my surprise the joint rubber which connects the carb and enginr block are not cracked trough. Not a single one. They all have cracks on the surface, bot not one crack goes trough. So there could not be any air going in the mix trough rubber. Would be interesting to hear how the others on here that are changing have found the inside conditions. Pictures of the outside condition would be good to compare how bad they have to look before they do actually crack all the way through.
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I looked at cracks and I estimated, that they were aprox 2-3 mm deep , so there should be still some rubber left. The problem is that now I don`t know what caouses the problem with acceleration...
(13-04-18, 12:05 PM)Roky link Wrote: [quote author=fazersharp link=topic=21375.msg278274#msg278274 date=1523617154]
[quote author=Roky link=topic=21375.msg278256#msg278256 date=1523596770]
I removed the carb yesterday and to my surprise the joint rubber which connects the carb and enginr block are not cracked trough. Not a single one. They all have cracks on the surface, bot not one crack goes trough. So there could not be any air going in the mix trough rubber. Would be interesting to hear how the others on here that are changing have found the inside conditions. Pictures of the outside condition would be good to compare how bad they have to look before they do actually crack all the way through.
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I looked at cracks and I estimated, that they were aprox 2-3 mm deep , so there should be still some rubber left. The problem is that now I don`t know what caouses the problem with acceleration...
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I have an interest here because I have craks but only minor and have filled them with black silicone.
Are the thou ones te same as the 600
I don't do rain or threat there of. dry rider only with no shame.
I have an interest here because I have craks but only minor and have filled them with black silicone.
Are the thou ones te same as the 600
nope - 5DM-13586-00 and [/size]5DM-13596-00 are both fzs600 specific (according to fowlers)
easiest way to check them is start the bike let it idle and then spray the inlet rubbers with brake cleaner if thee revs go up they are leaking if not they are good , and punk mine were tarted up with what looks like rubber paint never had any problems so far so im not overly concerned the cracks on most are only on the surface
(13-04-18, 04:12 PM)daviee link Wrote: easiest way to check them is start the bike let it idle and then spray the inlet rubbers with brake cleaner if thee revs go up they are leaking if not they are good , and punk mine were tarted up with what looks like rubber paint never had any problems so far so im not overly concerned the cracks on most are only on the surface the first half of my last post was ment to be a shortened down quote from fazersharp - i obviously shortened it a little too much
mine are cracked aswell but only on the outside so im not too bothered what they look like at the moment
but definatly taking notes about these chinese ones
What gets me with the Chinese stuff is that they seem to go overboard with the low low cost and as a result produce "some" real crap in terms of fit and or materials. Take those inlet rubbers at £15 - what's wrong with another £10 on to and be able to produce twice the quality, £25 still very cheap. People on here have also had fitting issues with Chinese radiators.
I don't do rain or threat there of. dry rider only with no shame.
(14-04-18, 11:46 AM)fazersharp link Wrote: What gets me with the Chinese stuff is that they seem to go overboard with the low low cost and as a result produce "some" real crap in terms of fit and or materials. Take those inlet rubbers at £15 - what's wrong with another £10 on to and be able to produce twice the quality, £25 still very cheap. People on here have also had fitting issues with Chinese radiators.
i think i read that the outlet pipes are at the wrong angle or something - if its just the carb warming pipe thats wrong then i will be laughing as i will just have them tig welded over as i dont use the carb warmers on mine i just bypassed them as the pipes were bunged full of crap and was on and off with the carbs all the time
Fitted my Chinese inlet rubbers yesterday, (outside ones anywsy) the 2 inside rubbers were perfect, no uv damage maby?
Job went without a hitch and they seem fine quality, vacuum pipes firmly in place for now , bargain
Set Fazer's to stun
Got my Chinese inlet rubbers in less than 20 days, and I have changed them over the weekend. It took some skill tko get all four rubbers at the same time in the carb, but I did it. the engine is running, now I just have to drive it to see if the problem with decrease of rpm in quick throttle open is still happening.
(23-04-18, 08:16 AM)Roky link Wrote: Got my Chinese inlet rubbers in less than 20 days, and I have changed them over the weekend. It took some skill tko get all four rubbers at the same time in the carb, but I did it. the engine is running, now I just have to drive it to see if the problem with decrease of rpm in quick throttle open is still happening.
Good to hear that they're of usable quality, I ordered a set at the weekend. Gives me enough time to overhaul the carbs before they arrive.
Treat everything in life the way a dog would- if you can't eat it or foc it, forget it.
(23-04-18, 10:42 AM)celticdog link Wrote: [quote author=Roky link=topic=21375.msg279017#msg279017 date=1524467795]
Got my Chinese inlet rubbers in less than 20 days, and I have changed them over the weekend. It took some skill tko get all four rubbers at the same time in the carb, but I did it. the engine is running, now I just have to drive it to see if the problem with decrease of rpm in quick throttle open is still happening.
Good to hear that they're of usable quality, I ordered a set at the weekend. Gives me enough time to overhaul the carbs before they arrive.
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Quality is ok, the only problem with mine was that the brass tubes are not shaped right, and they tend to much towards engine. But I is possible to point them to another direction 
After superglueing the brass post back in they're working great. As I rev the engine I can see them changing shape slightly as the pistons suck from the carbs so they must have great fitting.
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(23-04-18, 03:14 PM)redmandan link Wrote: After superglueing the brass post back in they're working great. As I rev the engine I can see them changing shape slightly as the pistons suck from the carbs so they must have great fitting.
That's a good point, how did you blank off the vac ports- do they come supplied with blanking caps?
Treat everything in life the way a dog would- if you can't eat it or foc it, forget it.
(23-04-18, 05:09 PM)celticdog link Wrote: [quote author=redmandan link=topic=21375.msg279031#msg279031 date=1524492872]
After superglueing the brass post back in they're working great. As I rev the engine I can see them changing shape slightly as the pistons suck from the carbs so they must have great fitting.
That's a good point, how did you blank off the vac ports- do they come supplied with blanking caps?
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I just used the old ones that were on my original Yamaha rubbers. They're still in good nick.
I toyed with the idea of throwing away the little metal clips that hold them on as they are so bent now its almost impossible to open them.
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