Headstock Bearing questions

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Hi guys

Just bought my self, my first Fazer. See picture! I have got this for a few months until summer starts again and i can get another sports bike.
Seems to run fairly well, although has a little CCT rattle.

It also needs a new headstock bearing.
I'm looking to get one and in my experience with bearings it's best to go to a specialist website and get a decent brand which i what i intend to do.


I can see that the upper bearing size is

25x47x15

And lower

30x55x17

I can high quality bearings very easily
Anyone know what seals I would need? It'll be the upper and lower seal so two in total.

If I am unable to find them, I'm going to have to buy one of the pre-made kits, which i would rather avoid doing as they don't normally use as good a' bearings as say SKF.

Thanks for your help

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[Jules-C]

I think only the bottom bearing has a seal as standard

[Dave48]

Welcome to the world of "Fazership"!
I have exactly the same model as yours-mine is a 2000 build(5DMA) but with a 2001 "Y" registration. Yours looks in good condition-mine came with the usual cracks on the nose cone where bike had been dropped by previous owner so have a bit of plastic welding to do over winter months.
Otherwise have done all the service/maintenance jobs including replacing the tired old rear shock & had the front forks overhauled by local specialist. In fairness mine is now showing 53,000 on clock & has a slight rattle from the clutch that disappears when the lever pulled in.
By chance I purchased a set of  taper roller headset bearings & seals from "Marksman" but in the event after checking/cleaning/regreasing/readjusting existing ones I didnt have to replace after all.  So if you are interested you can have these for £20 posted. Brand is "Codex"-they are good quality as are all products supplied by "Marksman"
I can vouch for their rear suspension linkage bearings which were a fraction of the cost of Yamaha OEM & every bit as good!
PM me if interested. Dave

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Welcome to the world of "Fazership"!
I have exactly the same model as yours-mine is a 2000 build(5DMA) but with a 2001 "Y" registration. Yours looks in good condition-mine came with the usual cracks on the nose cone where bike had been dropped by previous owner so have a bit of plastic welding to do over winter months.
Otherwise have done all the service/maintenance jobs including replacing the tired old rear shock & had the front forks overhauled by local specialist. In fairness mine is now showing 53,000 on clock & has a slight rattle from the clutch that disappears when the lever pulled in.
By chance I purchased a set of  taper roller headset bearings & seals from "Marksman" but in the event after checking/cleaning/regreasing/readjusting existing ones I didnt have to replace after all.  So if you are interested you can have these for £20 posted. Brand is "Codex"-they are good quality as are all products supplied by "Marksman"
I can vouch for their rear suspension linkage bearings which were a fraction of the cost of Yamaha OEM & every bit as good!
PM me if interested. Dave

Cheers buddy! It's been good so far, much less intense ride this morning compared to the ZX6R, yet still not hanging about.
There is no chance that this headstock bearing can be spun around, there is a big notch at 12oclock, the bars rest / slot into this gap. I'm sure i could move it but for the sake of a few pennies, a days work and a chance to chillin with the bike it shall be replaced!

It's not too bad of nick. No cracks and no major scratches, i'm sure it will polish up well.
It's been stood outside so the front brace around the fairing and clocks looks a little bit worn



I will do a service on it out of principal, Sparks, plugs, air filter and oil filter. Valves are hopefully ok i don't want to get too involved. Runs spot on other than a little tick
Carb rubbers need replacing
Headstock
Manual Cam Chain Tensioner, currently ticks on tickover, disappearers on anything over and sounds like a sewing machine (recommendations anyone?)
Renthal 758's Ultra Low (or 789s) handle bars
Belly Pan
Mudguard
Scottoiler to remove


I would also like to fit a set of matching Michelins, although currently mixed tires and old it feels very well planted.



These bearings you speak of, i assume that's the full kit, seals, upper and lower bearings with races?
Let me know, chances are i will have them off you.

Let me know if we can sourceother parts as well

[BBROWN1664]

The tensioner will sort itself out when it gets to the next position.

[Jules-C]

Or it could just be the clutch rattle?  Does the tick over noise disappear when the clutch is pulled in with the bike still at tick over in neutral?

[Dave48]

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Welcome to the world of "Fazership"!
I have exactly the same model as yours-mine is a 2000 build(5DMA) but with a 2001 "Y" registration. Yours looks in good condition-mine came with the usual cracks on the nose cone where bike had been dropped by previous owner so have a bit of plastic welding to do over winter months.
Otherwise have done all the service/maintenance jobs including replacing the tired old rear shock & had the front forks overhauled by local specialist. In fairness mine is now showing 53,000 on clock & has a slight rattle from the clutch that disappears when the lever pulled in.
By chance I purchased a set of  taper roller headset bearings & seals from "Marksman" but in the event after checking/cleaning/regreasing/readjusting existing ones I didnt have to replace after all.  So if you are interested you can have these for £20 posted. Brand is "Codex"-they are good quality as are all products supplied by "Marksman"
I can vouch for their rear suspension linkage bearings which were a fraction of the cost of Yamaha OEM & every bit as good!
PM me if interested. Dave

Cheers buddy! It's been good so far, much less intense ride this morning compared to the ZX6R, yet still not hanging about.
There is no chance that this headstock bearing can be spun around, there is a big notch at 12oclock, the bars rest / slot into this gap. I'm sure i could move it but for the sake of a few pennies, a days work and a chance to chillin with the bike it shall be replaced!

It's not too bad of nick. No cracks and no major scratches, i'm sure it will polish up well.
It's been stood outside so the front brace around the fairing and clocks looks a little bit worn



I will do a service on it out of principal, Sparks, plugs, air filter and oil filter. Valves are hopefully ok i don't want to get too involved. Runs spot on other than a little tick
Carb rubbers need replacing
Headstock
Manual Cam Chain Tensioner, currently ticks on tickover, disappearers on anything over and sounds like a sewing machine (recommendations anyone?)
Renthal 758's Ultra Low (or 789s) handle bars
Belly Pan
Mudguard
Scottoiler to remove


I would also like to fit a set of matching Michelins, although currently mixed tires and old it feels very well planted.



These bearings you speak of, i assume that's the full kit, seals, upper and lower bearings with races?
Let me know, chances are i will have them off you.

Let me know if we can sourceother parts as well


Thats the full kit ie taper roller bearings,races & seals. I phoned Marksman at the time I ordered & they assured me they were a good brand.
Re your carb rubbers_I replaced mine in July got them from M&P Swansea-£69-99. Also bought carb overhaul kits from them. Transformed the fuelling after carb balance. Tyres; I am running Michelin PR3s Good tyres!
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The tensioner will sort itself out when it gets to the next position.

I've been told the engine has been like this for about 8 thousand miles, apparently has tried rolling it back although not tried my self.
It is quite an awful tick, i'll get a video and don't feel particularly uncomfortable about just leaving it.

It's always quite a nasty noise to put up with on tickover

Or it could just be the clutch rattle?  Does the tick over noise disappear when the clutch is pulled in with the bike still at tick over in neutral?

Not clutch rattle. Not noticed it while flicking the clutch in or out but will pay some attention to that on the ride home.

Thats the full kit ie taper roller bearings,races & seals. I phoned Marksman at the time I ordered & they assured me they were a good brand.
Re your carb rubbers_I replaced mine in July got them from M&P Swansea-£69-99. Also bought carb overhaul kits from them. Transformed the fuelling after carb balance. Tyres; I am running Michelin PR3s Good tyres!

Fantastic, I'll be in touch in regards to those shortly David48 as that sounds like what i need. Sure sounds better than the generic 'all balls' stuff!
The bike is actually very crispy and responsive surprisingly.
I will probably go as far as replacing the inlets, full service and balence (got a set of carbtunes)


I'm going to keep an eye on eBay for a cheap set of good inlets if not i'll get the £70 ones.