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What is the main diff between the Fazer FS1000 & FZ1
#21
(01-09-13, 07:33 PM)ltcorwin link Wrote: [quote author=Dead Eye link=topic=9659.msg98119#msg98119 date=1377979403]
Left / blue one is an FZ1 and right / yellow is an FZS 1000

Yeah, I noticed now that the blue one actually says FZ1 on it D'oh!

LTC
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my fzs says fz1 on it but it deffo int a girls bike lol
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#22

Just to confuse the issue


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#23
Follwoing on from Jackjet's post -

The upshot of fual injection is you have to pay a bike shop to balance the injectors as and when it needs it. Also the first gen of the FZ1 had crappy fueling so the popular mod was to fit a PowerCommander 3 and an Ivans fuel cut eliminator

http://www.ivansperformanceproducts.com/2006fz1.htm
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#24
(04-09-13, 10:06 PM)unfazed link Wrote: Just to confuse the issue

Pic 1 = UK/Europe model = fast red & black version.
Pic 2 = US model = slow blue version. (possibly restricted.... :rollin )
Easy.
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(05-09-13, 06:25 PM)nick crisp link Wrote: [quote author=unfazed link=topic=9659.msg99178#msg99178 date=1378328798]

Just to confuse the issue

Pic 1 = UK/Europe model = fast red & black version.
Pic 2 = US model = slow blue version. (possibly restricted.... :rollin )
Easy.
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The US models are full power, its the French models that are restricted to 100BHP
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(05-09-13, 06:57 PM)bigbluebear link Wrote: [quote author=nick crisp link=topic=9659.msg99402#msg99402 date=1378401914]
[quote author=unfazed link=topic=9659.msg99178#msg99178 date=1378328798]

Just to confuse the issue

Pic 1 = UK/Europe model = fast red & black version.
Pic 2 = US model = slow blue version. (possibly restricted.... :rollin )
Easy.
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The US models are full power, its the French models that are restricted to 100BHP
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Merde.
The Deef's apprentice
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#27
What are you worried about Christo? You're going stateside soon!  Smile
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#28
(05-09-13, 07:12 PM)nick crisp link Wrote: What are you worried about Christo? You're going stateside soon!  Smile

Wee, but Eye eez from la bell France. Eef I get er bayk een mie 'ome cuntree, eet weel be slow.

Appropreeatlee, the thirst colorr on ze flag eez blue, weech eez slow as merde!  :lol
The Deef's apprentice
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#29
(05-09-13, 04:09 PM)b1k3rdude link Wrote: Follwoing on from Jackjet's post -

The upshot of fual injection is you have to pay a bike shop to balance the injectors as and when it needs it. Also the first gen of the FZ1 had crappy fueling so the popular mod was to fit a PowerCommander 3 and an Ivans fuel cut eliminator

http://www.ivansperformanceproducts.com/2006fz1.htm

Balancing the throttles is a diy job the same as the old fogey gen1 :p
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#30
(05-09-13, 06:25 PM)nick crisp link Wrote: [quote author=unfazed link=topic=9659.msg99178#msg99178 date=1378328798]

Just to confuse the issue

Pic 1 = UK/Europe model = fast red & black version.
Pic 2 = US model = slow blue version. (possibly restricted.... :rollin )
Easy.
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Guess again  :lol
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#31
This is my Aussie model 2004 FZS1000S but has the FZ1 stickers Smile


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#32
having owned both id havta say the gen 1 is a brilliant bike that needs a little money and time spending on it to make it even better.(end can, ivans jet kit) the gen 2 is also brilliant, but needs considerably more money and time spending on it to make it even better..(slip on, pc3 or 5,dyno time and re-map, FCE, removing/replacing/cutting down secondaries etc...) just my humble opinion of course..... Smile
also, when people say about fuel consumption and you think " hell yeah, but i didnt buy a motorbike to worry about that...", if you ride a lot then the gen 2 really does hit you in the pocket, quite apart from the messing about if your touring with considerably more fuel stops, and planning your forays into the pyranees to make sure you dont end up stranded and fubar.  Wink
in truth if gen 1's werent getting a bit long in the tooth now, i would have got another, having said that i do love my gen 2, its a proper fun, thats what its all about innit...
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#33
Better in the twisties  :lol  more nimble.
But in a straight line with carbs, exhaust K&N af all in prof tuned the Gen 2 will not be left behind.
where does the muffler go?
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#34
The real story and a little History Lesson
The forerunner of them all is the FZ400, an inline four with four carburettors making a claimed 53hp which hit the streets in Japan in 1997  and was last manufactured in 1998. :eek It was only available as a Jap import  Sad in Europe and usually known as the FZS400 or Fazer 400.
Next up was the FZS 600 also known as the Fazer 600 (the first to be named Fazer  Smile ), also an inline four with four carburettors making a claimed 95hp with engine based on the Thundercat detuned to with a better mid range and was manufactured from 1998 to 2003 with a few changes along the way and it was never imported to the US. In the Baltic states it was called the FZS600 only as the name Fazer was used by a food company. Replaced b the FZ600 in late 2003 as it did not meet the latest emissions regulations
Next up in 2001 was the FZ1 designed for the US as they thought bigger is better (but all the 600 riders know this is not true  :lol ) and found its way to Europe as the FZS1000 and Fazer 1000, another an inline four with four carburettors making a claimed 143hp with engine base on the 98 Carburettor model R1 engine also detuned to give a better midrange. Most of Europe had the officially imported models designated the FZS 1000 with Fazer on the fairing (The black engine and frame models were know as FZS1000S) With the exception of the Baltic states for the reasons outlined above they got the FZ1 on the Fairing. Never sold in the numbers expected because it was overpriced in the beginning, but discounted prices saw sales improve later in its sales life. I believe it was also available in Australia as the FZ1. It was last manufacturd in 2005 and like the 600 was killed off as it did not meet the latest emissions regulations. :eek
It was finally replaced in 2006 by the was the fuel injected FZ1 :'(
Am open to correction, but it should be mostly correct
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#35
FZS1000 is heavier than FZ1
FZS1000 has softer suspension than FZ1
FZS1000 has comfier seat than FZ1
FZS1000 has better fairing than FZ1
FZS1000 has carbs and FZ1 has injectors
FZS1000 has nicer throttle response than FZ1 (less aggressive)
FZS1000 has tubular frame, FZ1 has Di Cast Alli frame
FZS1000 has 21 litre tank capacity, FZ1 has little 18 litre capacity.
FZ1 has more power than FZS1000 (about 6hp difference)
FZS1000 is slightly higher and longer than FZ1.


The bikes def look similar but feel very different.


FZ1 is def sportier. It has a more rigid frame, stiffer springs and wider bars, lighter weight, and being shorter turns in a bit better.


However, the FZS1000 is faster than the FZ1 in both acceleration on 0-60 and standing 1/4 mile and it has higher top speed.


I have both bike - but have converted the FZS1000 into a full on track bike. I have given it stiffer springs, clip-on handlebars, stripped all unnecessary elctrics such as lights and clocks (I've put in a smaller rev counter, ditched the seat for a much lighter foam pad, and adapted fairing and pulled the suspension through theyoked 10mm. . It is now lighter than the FZ1, sportier springs making the extra acceleration and top speed count, lower and shorter..
ju1i@n
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