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Coolant?
#21
When the coolant gets hot it will 'expand' and any excess will go into the expansion tank, hence the name.  Wink


The reason there is an upper level is because they've guessed how much will expand into this tank on a normal occasion so they've allowed so much space in there for this to happen, but if it's already too full it will simply get chucked onto the floor out of the overflow pipe once the levels rise.


*** When the bike cools down the fluid will get sucked back into the main system. ***


If all is well with your system , as in no air leaks or blockages of the waterways or radiator, then the coolant level should stay pretty much the same level in the expansion tank (when the engine is cool, and levels are settled), with maybe a minor top up every 6 months or so.
I haven't topped mine up for many months now!


Just by keeping an eye on that tank can give you a good indication if all is well with the system though so it's a useful visual tool as well.
If your expansion tank is empty then that means you should immediately check to see if the fluid is okay at the cap end under the front of the fuel tank.
If it's okay under the cap then top up the expansion tank to no more than the upper level.
If the level is low or you can't see any fluid then you need to figure out why?


If for instance you had a leak from a pipe up front then you would lose fluid from up front, but when the bike cools down it will suck whatever coolant it needs from the expansion tank, so you would see the levels were wrong, or decreasing, meaning there is a problem.
If you suspect it's a leak but aren't quite sure where from i've always found it easier to take the bike for a quick blast at night, then use a torch on the engine, it will show up coolant stains or leaking liquid much easier than in daytime, but a dark garage will do the same job too if you have one.


The other one to look out for is what i keep harping on about, when you have a blocked system the waterways will be thinner than normal so the coolant won't flow properly and the engine will get so hot that it will push the fluid into the expansion tank until it literally boils, fills the tank and chucks it on the floor. Remember, it's not just antifreeze, coolant has a higher boiling point than just water so if you see or hear it bubbling away in the expansion tank, or fluid is hitting the floor, then you have a problem.
This is the dodgy one 'cos it will just keep chucking it out until you have dangerously low levels of coolant, then that alone can obviously cause all sorts of grief.
That's why i'm such a big fan (excuse the pun) of keeping the system in good condition, it can only be a good thing and when it's all functioning well it is also very low maintenance.  Confusedmokin
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#22
Great thread for coolant change, but I have some questions to ask. When you say rad flush are we talking about the standard Holts rad flush as isnt that designed for cars strength wise as a car has many mor ltrs coolant as we only have 2 ltrs. Should we consider only useing half of the bottle.
Also did you replace the washer on the blead bolt. I last did mine about 8 years ago and gonna re do it before the winter
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(10-09-13, 10:43 PM)fazersharp link Wrote: Great thread for coolant change, but I have some questions to ask. When you say rad flush are we talking about the standard Holts rad flush as isnt that designed for cars strength wise as a car has many mor ltrs coolant as we only have 2 ltrs. Should we consider only useing half of the bottle.
Also did you replace the washer on the blead bolt. I last did mine about 8 years ago and gonna re do it before the winter

Yeah, that's the stuff.
I've not really worried about the strength of it as it's only a small bottle, and it's never caused any issues for me.

Not sure what washer or bleed bolt you mean?
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#24
Should of said The coolant drain plug.And not bleed. From memory I only used that to drain I think its on the same side as the oil drain plug but higher up. I may of took off from the expansion bott pipe to get that out but never saw the need nor I think did haynes to take off any other pipes. The less you fiddle with them the les chance they are gonna damage
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(11-09-13, 12:13 AM)fazersharp link Wrote: Should of said The coolant drain plug.And not bleed. From memory I only used that to drain I think its on the same side as the oil drain plug but higher up. I may of took off from the expansion bott pipe to get that out but never saw the need nor I think did haynes to take off any other pipes. The less you fiddle with them the les chance they are gonna damage


It's really not something to worry about, that bolt ain't going anywhere, the same as the oil plug, and it takes a a good few turns before either plug considers letting fluid out so they're not gonna leak either.
Some people prefer to drain coolant by removing the water pump hose, but i personally prefer to leave pipes alone if possible.
Same as the expansion tank, i've personally never bothered emptying it out as there's so little liquid in there, but each to their own.
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#26
My expansion tank has always been too filthy to see if there's anything in there or not!  The level has always seemed OK under the tank so I've never bothered checking.. :\
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(11-09-13, 06:03 AM)darrsi link Wrote: [quote author=fazersharp link=topic=9291.msg100582#msg100582 date=1378854805]
Should of said The coolant drain plug.And not bleed. From memory I only used that to drain I think its on the same side as the oil drain plug but higher up. I may of took off from the expansion bott pipe to get that out but never saw the need nor I think did haynes to take off any other pipes. The less you fiddle with them the les chance they are gonna damage
I see so you are saying all I need to do to drain is take out the drain plug after removing the rad filler lid.
Also are people removing the petrol tank to do this or can it lust be hindged up and held with a block of wood


It's really not something to worry about, that bolt ain't going anywhere, the same as the oil plug, and it takes a a good few turns before either plug considers letting fluid out so they're not gonna leak either.
Some people prefer to drain coolant by removing the water pump hose, but i personally prefer to leave pipes alone if possible.
Same as the expansion tank, i've personally never bothered emptying it out as there's so little liquid in there, but each to their own.
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