What are my rear shock options ?

[kebab19]

Kebab can you please take a look at this ad, never mind the text, just skim through the pictures and tell me if this fits on my fazer? It's from a 06-07 R6.
http://www.njuskalo.hr/moto-dijelovi-ost...s-20455764

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Kebab can you please take a look at this ad, never mind the text, just skim through the pictures and tell me if this fits on my fazer? It's from a 06-07 R6.

http://www.njuskalo.hr/moto-dijelovi-ost...s-20455764

No, that's the earlier model. It won't fit.
See Devilsyam's post for details of how to spot the difference.
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Actually... although I never updated my original R6 shock thread, I got my hands on the earlier 2006-07 shock, modified it and ran it in my own 600 for 15 months with no issues. So technically, unlike for the Fazer1000 it can be squeezed into the 600's frame, but is a VERY tight fit & requires a little bit of filing to the top reservoir. If that doesn't sound appealing, track down the later 2008 owards version of the shock, which fits more easily.

[Jbizzle]

I purchased the R6 shock, from a very helpful Foccer.


It had an uprated spring fitted. It has completely transformed the handling of my bike.


Both solo and two up the handling is vastly improved.  The immense amount of adjustability means i can set it up just right for touring, solo or two up, or a Sunday blast.


Hands down the single best mod i have ever made to my Fazer


I dont know about the stock R6 spring, some riders who dont like the R6 stock spring, might benefit from getting it upgraded rather than going for a £450 option with less adjustablility.




On a separate note, it has shown the front end up as really week so i am going to replace the springs as the cheaper way of getting better front end feel. Can anyone on here vouch for some springs, (linear or progressive,) they use themselves?

[ponkster]

I did my rear shock conversion a long time ago before the R6 conversion idea was out there and the only inexpensive choice really was sticking on a shock from a fazer thou - it works well enough for me and is a massive improvement over the original.
There has always been expensive after market upgrades available but an Olin's shock would cost more than my wee fazer is worth!

[tommyardin]

Shocks like most things when we first get them we play with all the options available, Compression and Rebound not forgetting PreLoad, then we start raising or lowering that back end by dog-bone changes raising the front fork stanchions up through the steering head yokes effectively lower the front, because that has an impact on the rear suspension to.
We keep trying to fine tune everything and are never quite sure we have got it to its premium settings, a little tweek here a little adjustment there, short blast out, Mmmm still not sure its quite right, back in the shed or workshop for a few more adjustments and on it goes, we can spend more and more time fine tuning and never really be sure we have it quite right.
There comes a stage that we just say 'foc it' and get on a enjoy riding the bike and enjoy her for the bike she is.

Sounds like me with the new Computer, Tablet, Smartphone I get them and want to know everything about it all the apps that are on it and all the settings must be just right and when I feel I have got it setup perfectly I make calls and text people on it  :'(   Doh! 

[tommyardin]

I've made a simple comparison table for all these shocks you mentioned, with info I could gather from the internet.
This is what I came up with:





Direct link to the picture if mods find embedded picture too big.


Price in GBP with shipping and VAT refers to the Price source.
Local price is just for YSS and Bitubo, I went today to a local bike shop and that's how much it costs if you purchase them there. Added for comparison to online shops. Big difference.
Ohlins is allegedly, completely serviceable. Not sure for the others.


Now I'm in trouble  :b

Nitron Shocks are completely serviceable as well, return to Nitron 3 or 4 working day turnaround from arrival at Nitron.
I have the Nitron R1 on the FZS600 great shock (about £460), vast improvement in ride comfort one or two up. Handling is more positive and is planted, the bike turns in quicker, but you never feel it's getting away from you.
Bearing in mind the front forks on my bike were sorted out at the same time as fitting the Nitron, Ohlin Linears and YSS emus, another great mod. 


My wrists and lower back are in agreement with my daughter and wife who both say it is a much more smooth and stable ride, The Nitron is a great mod and I am sure all the other After Market shocks mentioned in the post will be a huge improvement over the standard Yamaha shock, bearing in mind most of the original shocks on the back of the FZS 600's are at least 14 years old and possibly got 50 or 60K miles on them.
Two up with my Original Yammy shock the rear-hugger used to strike the underside of the seat on fast bumps, I not a heavy guy at about 12.5 stones and my daughter about 9 stones and the Mrs at 8, so not a heavy load, No you silly bugger not all three of us at the same time DOH! 

[nedwood]

Been thinking about using l8tr 26th shock on my carb version 600 but I am only light weight say 150 to 155lbs all up so will the 46 shock need a lighter spring for my weight.Also has any one for a contact or drawings to make the new dog bones and top hat spacers ?.

[nedwood]

O8 R6 shock

[kebab19]

For my shock conversions I used dogbones with holes 127mm apart which restored the rear to standard-ish height (might lift the rear very slightly)
http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,8167.25.html  - halfway down the page D. Curzon provides the top-hat dimensions in a CAD drawing
Replacement top bolt will need to be 10m diameter and first 60mm unthreaded for extra strength. High tensile bolts best option, off the likes of ebay.

For your weight you'd be best with a 600lb or even 625lb-inch spring depending on whether you take pillions / do trackdays / carry luggage / ride like a loon.  You could try maxing out preload on the original spring - it would probably be fine for solo use @ legal speeds but not if you're really pushing on   

[Jbizzle]

Out of interest does anyone know what was the OEM shock's spring rate is (lb/")? 

[Freza]

Does anyone know what's the difference between these 3 options when ordering Nitron R1 shock?
I drive fast on country roads, so maybe road+track ?

[Freza]

So, after a while I went with Nitron R1 shock.
Came this morning...it looks great.

Been exchanging emails with their sales rep since I couldn't decide between "road" and "road and track" options, so he suggested they create a custom spring for me that will provide firm handling when riding fast, but won't sacrifice comfort for daily commuting.
Big props to them for that.

Can't wait to install it in ~2 weeks.
Will post some opinions after that.


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