The great quality debate and paying extra.

[noggythenog]

I'm not sure if they have improved run flats but mine seem fine. Noggy did you say new tyres at 11000m?  My last car 4x4 did 30k on the origional tyres wifes fiesta is 11 plate 11k miles origional tyres have loads left on them. Am I just good on tyre or what milage do others get? Bmw only done 2k miles so I'm not sure how they will last as yet compared to normal tyres.

Yeh Andy, 11500 for the fronts, the rears still have about 4mm on them, and it is only a little skoda fabia estate, my last one was a diesel but the same car and it wasnt much better, 2 tyres every year.......im all stop start driving though with barely any motorway driving.


I had a little 1.5 diesel clio 5 years ago as a company car and it was even worse......luckily the company paid for them because it was such a good handling little car that it used tear out all 4 tyres pretty quickly.


Think i used to get about 8000 miles outta bridgestone potenzas on my old type-r civic.


Admittedly im a bit heavy footed......half my time spent trying to test my mpg meter on the car to the extreme and then the other half just normal ish type stuff.......ok i do boot it a bit.

[Dead Eye]

I really hope I get more than 10k miles on a set of car tyres... I try to aim for 30k+ !!

[slimwilly]

Tyre buyer guide


http://tyresearch.telegraph.co.uk/

[stevierst]

We use run flats on the BMW's at work (530d/330d) and they're pretty good imho. We kick the living daylights out of them on a daily basis, and they're as grippy as the rest, but I don't pay for the tyres, so can't say about how long they last.

And cheapo tyres performance, well it's not always 'you get what you pay for'.
Hankook, and a few other brands were laughed at for being cheap and nasty a few years ago, not so much now, they run their own race series! (i see another maxxis influence here).

I've always been a believer that consumer pressure and clever advertising keep us buying costly brands, as its almost propaganda-esque to keep them selling to the 'believers'.

I used cheapo tyres on my high performance cars over the last couple of decades (xr4i/xr4x4, 620ti, BMW325i) purely because I did 30+k/pa and to be honest they have got a lot better recently! I even saw track tests done by independent journalists, and there wasn't a great difference in track times between them. Some of them still said it was mind over matter with the cheaper brands.

You get what you pay for??? Not necessarily!!!
More like you think you get what you pay too much for!

[greg1953]

Back in the mid 90s we had a 205 diesel doing 25,000 per year, I fitted a set of Polish " Stommel " tyres as they were very cheap however they weren't great in the dry but in the wet they were plain dangerous, locking up on braking and sliding on corners. Since then I've used all sorts of tyres on my A4 & Golf with no issues and Stommel  seem to have vanished from the market, thank heavens.
Greg

[Andy FZS]

I think tyres like all other consumer goods have a certain perceived badge snobbery. Sometimes I'm sure the premium brands are better and I know I for one do have a dilemma at times deciding if the extra cash is giving me more for my buck so to speak and then even if it is do I need it. BUT  somethings I buy I don't need I just want and I guess we do that at times. Note to self.....must get out on the bike more and work less..

[noggythenog]

Good shout from Andyfzs there.....sometimes we just want stuff.......well said and totally true and sometimes if we buy a premium product then that just gives us a bit more product confidence so if that in turn makes us a bit more relaxed then it will perhaps give some element of something feeling better.


Does anyone have the answer yet to why there is no dry weather performance indicator on the tyre charts???????

Playing Devils advocate a bit here then I put this to yous foccers - dry weather performance is so similar with all tyres (that are subject to the chart system, so EU or UK approved ) that the differences are so negligible that they do not warrant a separate chart.......................what do yous foccers think about that then?

[stevierst]

Spot on Noggy. Seen various track tests on tyres over the years, and there's next to very little difference in dry weather performance.

There's always a traction rating on car tyres, and I'm sure they have to reach some criteria to be able to put that on there.

[sadlonelygit]

when we bought our current car (250hp) it had conti's on. when we changed them we put £50 tyres on.............and guess what? we had £50 performance from them. they were dreadful wet or dry! in the end i turned off the esp and span them out as i wanted shot of them. from then on we take the advice of the fitters (who we know), if they say a tyre is ok we'll use them, if not we pay a bit more!

[slimwilly]

when we bought our current car (250hp) it had conti's on. when we changed them we put £50 tyres on.............and guess what? we had £50 performance from them. they were dreadful wet or dry! in the end i turned off the esp and span them out as i wanted shot of them. from then on we take the advice of the fitters (who we know), if they say a tyre is ok we'll use them, if not we pay a bit more!

£50.00 :eek :eek :eek :eek :eek :eek :eek
What tyres can you get for £50?  even my small van,transit connect has cheap tyres on and they were £65 each, only about 90bhp

[noggythenog]

The ones i just put on were £55 each slim....they're bloody good to be fair.

[taylor]

I got 55 pound ones on my wheelie bin, :lol, you cant buy a tyre for that can you. :lol

[noggythenog]

I got 55 pound ones on my wheelie bin, :lol , you cant buy a tyre for that can you. :lol

Taylor.......go stand in the wheelie bin and repeat after me........i'm a piece of rubbish, i'm a piece of rubbish, i'm a piece of rubbish :b

[taylor]

I would but its a bit cold mr nog  sorry mate had to get that in.

[noggythenog]

I would but its a bit cold mr nog  sorry mate had to get that in.

What's yur address ill be up visiting on bin day when my rear tyres need replacing :lol

[Andy FZS]

Maybe you could start a new thread on what car to buy next that wheelie bin tyres will fit...