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Drivetrain slack
#21
You seem much more clued up than me but it's in my nature to try and help so please forgive me if my suggestion is silly but..  Is the rear wheel in alignment?

This site listed it http://www.reginachain.it/eng/use_and_ma...to07.shtml and I was trying to understand what the effect of a misaligned rear sprocket may be and my conclusion (correct me if I'm wrong)  was worst case the chain would come off, but if it was out just by a bit then the chain may alternate between slightly tight and slightly loose which could make it a bit whippy?

Ideas?
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#22
(19-09-13, 07:14 AM)simonm link Wrote: You seem much more clued up than me but it's in my nature to try and help so please forgive me if my suggestion is silly but..  Is the rear wheel in alignment?

This site listed it http://www.reginachain.it/eng/use_and_ma...to07.shtml and I was trying to understand what the effect of a misaligned rear sprocket may be and my conclusion (correct me if I'm wrong)  was worst case the chain would come off, but if it was out just by a bit then the chain may alternate between slightly tight and slightly loose which could make it a bit whippy?

Ideas?

If the rear wheel is untrue then the chain "tries" to move over on the sprocket but then corrects itself, so it would just cause a lumpy, knocking feeling which you'd feel in your foot.
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#23
I'll get my coat before I derail the topic any more.  Adiós  Big Grin
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#24

It would be interesting to know how much backlash there is due to the clutch and geartrain, both in the OP's case and those who don't have a problem.
I've a certain amount on mine. It's not particularly noticeable for normal riding, but when conditions are slippery and I'm going slower and trying to ride as smoothly as possible it does make things difficult.
The easiest way to measure the backlash is with the sprocket cover off, bike on the centrestand and in 1st and rock the rear wheel back and forth. By seeing how much the sprocket itself moves any slop due to chain tension/condition and the cush drive can be ignored. My sprocket has almost exactly one tooth's worth of movement, i.e 24º.
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#25
That sounds like a lot. 1 tooth on the front sprocket??
1 tooth on the rear sprocket is 7.5º
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#26
(19-09-13, 09:03 PM)elbrownos link Wrote: That sounds like a lot. 1 tooth on the front sprocket??
1 tooth on the rear sprocket is 7.5º
Yes, the front sprocket.
It seemed like a lot to me too, but I've nothing to compare it to at the moment so maybe it's normal.
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#27
hello, im new to fazer 600, how much slack is too much ? where will the slack be, in the gearbox or clutch basket?  and is there a way to adjust it ?
cheers
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#28
(02-10-13, 06:03 PM)brumax link Wrote: hello, im new to fazer 600, how much slack is too much ? where will the slack be, in the gearbox or clutch basket?  and is there a way to adjust it ?
cheers
The 'slack' that the above posters are referring to is the chain 'slack'. This is measured by having a handy little ruler available and pushing upwards on the lower chain run to see how many mm of play/movement there is. The chain is adjusted by loosening the rear wheel axle nut and adjusting the nuts on the trailing end of the swingarm. If you are going to attempt this, make sure you look at both sides of the swingarm when making the adjustment. There are alignment marks on both sides where the axle slides through which are an aid to making sure your wheel is in alignment. When you are happy with the slack in your chain be sure to tighten the axle nut and check the tightness of the chain again. Tightening the axle nut can alter the chain slack to some degree and put your settings out again. This sounds pretty complicated to do but is made much easier if you have a manual to hand with diagrams which I would suggest if attempting for the 1st time  Wink 
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#29
Cheerz les, but I mean the backlash in the clutch / gear train,
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#30
Hello, thanks for all info, if 1 tooth play at front sprocket is normal then all seems ok,
cheers,

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Plus! wot a great site this is for info :-)
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