Anyone tried a R6 shock on a 600?

[Lumpy]

My mate is 20 stone he was out on his MZ with us at week end . quite a sight to see.

Despite spring rates not being supposed to change. I suspect it is soggy spring rather than a damper unit which creates most shock trouble.

normally it's the damping that gives up.

[bwizz]

My Thou Shock was re gassed and oiled by RR .a seemingly reputable company. The bike still wallowed like a wale when refitted, despite trying all available settings, £80 wasted !
Also from my experience in the car world Mcpherson Strutts seem to suffer more from spring sag than damping leakage
My present ancient Astra has now done 18000 with no leakage
The track actually changes due to changing steering  geometry My own theory is that ride height /preload on a bike is quite critical. when this is reduced , handling problems ensue

[Lumpy]

it's not always leakage it is the samping oil that gives up. It's always more noticeable on a bike too than on a car with remoter steering. If the car is a dynamic one then the dampers going off may be noticed but normally only when you actually replace them you realise how bad it was. Spring rates are more personal and can be tailored around the individual mass on the bike, on a car it is more of a compromise and less noticeable. It is the damping that causes a wallow though if the rebound damping is insufficient..

[bwizz]

I'll agree to differ on this subject .
In the absence of any-body who has tried my 600 R6 shock idea. I'll put in on shortly and report back

[Lumpy]

I'll agree to differ on this subject .
In the absence of any-body who has tried my 600 R6 shock idea. I'll put in on shortly and report back

no probs but think that if the damping is sufficient you won't get a wallow as it will damp it out, you may get progressive bottoming out though if it is too strong and cannot recover in time. Soft spring and soft damping equals wallowing, well for my interpretation of wallowing, but a soft spring will exarcerbate this. Over damping will make things choppy too.

[kebab19]

The 2010 onwards R6 shock is from a bike weighing about 170kg dry
It fits (and works well) on the Fazer 1000 which is 208kg dry
From what I can see, this mod for the 1000 largely works due to the retention of the original suspension linkages.
So if the R6 shock fits the Fazer 600 and uses the 600's suspension linkages, it may well suit a bike that weighs somewhere in between the two (189kg dry?), particularly with the spring preload backed off near minimum.

Theory is all very well,  we've now reached the point where someone needs to fit it. Unfortunately, while I do have an R6 shock and a Fazer 1000, I have no 600 :-)

Bwizz - I take it you intend to fit standard length dog-bones?

[bwizz]

Yes I intend using standard dog bones. i'm a short arse so on the thou ,The r6 shock being a bit shorter suits me fine. As you point out theory is one thing!  In the case of fitting to a 600 I'm guessing that the gas compression will need to be nr max to compensate for the weaker spring!  Waiting for the insurance company to sort out damage on the 600 so can't do ow't yet!