What would you do if you lost your license?

[Slaninar]

I also watched something called "Preppers" which was a bunch of crazy people in America preparing for the imminent "Doomsday" by pickling jars of food every day. Personally, I think that if the end of the world was coming, it'd be a nuclear wipeout initiated by the Arabs.

Bush? Is that you? 

[Chillum]

4/5th's you say? I wouldn't settle for less than 999/1000th's

[MadDogMcQ]

[quote author=MadDogMcQ link=topic=4806.msg41952#msg41952 date=1349454012] Personally, I think that if the end of the world was coming, it'd be a nuclear wipeout initiated by the Arabs.

Bush? Is that you? 
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Do you seriously think Bush could have strung together a sentence like that with no spelling mistakes? :lol

[Rusty]

What a simpleton like me doesn't get, is why all these [size=1em]incredibly[/size] clever people who make [size=1em]VAST,[/size] long-term investments in things like super-factories when the future is (according to some) so feckin gloomy! Obviously, the Porsche factory is just one of a myriad projects around the world which are all being worked on - in vain?

Those are two different issues. The global increasing population has been recognised as future a problem by all politicians so there will eventually have to be some form of population control, others want a reduction. That's a long term aim whatever happens, but I suppose it's just one of those 'coincidences' that war or pandemic has been the usual method of achieving it.

None of us can know what's ahead MadDog but for sure we live in uncertain times. As with any uncertainty the best a business can do is to carry on as normal, which is why long term investment etc still happens. It can't not happen can it?  Everyone can't just disappear down a hole in case something bad happens. Besides, just like in the military when some info is above your security clearance so it is in politics, only a few really know what might happen next.  We can only guess or speculate based on what we discover.

They keep talking about rogue states and terrorists on TV, but for me there's no bigger rogue state that Israel.

No one wants war, well certainly not the poor saps that have to fight it.  So apart from the Zionists who believe in end times prophesies and want to bring about armagedon so god will come back, there isn't a concerted effort to bring about a war, but the conditions are there and they are being stimulated by someone. [size=1em]I think war is possible by next spring. Anyone who has their eye on the ball knows Israel wants that, and Romney will make it happen. Looking at Obama's performance on the face off the other night he looked like a man who's already been told.[/size]

[size=1em]I've read report after report from some of the world's top agencies and they all believe Iran has no intention of developing WMD's. It's the same phoney excuse they used before. Israel attacks Iran, Iran attacks US military bases nearby, the US are drawn in to defend Israel, Russia and China support Iran, and Japan may yet attack China. It's a tinderbox. Add to that the creation of anti American hatred in the middle east (by Israel) and it don't look rosy.[/size]

[size=1em]At least if it happens it happens, we'll know for certain then. [/size] :lol  Oh, and it won't be nuclear wipeout Tom it doesn't work like that. It will be conventional or tac nuke so that arms can be sold to both sides and a tidy profit made by the guys that caused it - just like all the other wars. Then they profit later from all the rebuilding contract work that has to be done, no profit in rebuilding a toxic wasteland.

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I also watched something called "Preppers" which was a bunch of crazy people in America preparing for the imminent "Doomsday" by pickling jars of food every day.

As recently as five years ago I'd have thought them nuts. Now I think them sensible, if only for protection against civil unrest.

[MadDogMcQ]

Well, maybe I'm a blind, ignorant sap, but I ain't gonna lose a single night's sleep over the end of the world. For as long as it's available to me, I'm gonna ride my bike, eat good food, drink good wine and make love every night to my gorgeous wife.  :lol  And since it's all gonna kick off next Spring, then I guess there's not a single thing I could do about it anyway.




Out of curiosity, what it is that you are going to do?

[Rusty]

Well, maybe I'm a blind, ignorant sap, but I ain't gonna lose a single night's sleep over the end of the world. For as long as it's available to me, I'm gonna ride my bike, eat good food, drink good wine and make love every night to my gorgeous wife.

Even if a new war did erupt in the middle east it's not exactly the end of the world Tom. Well not for you personally, but certainly for many other poor bastards.  Still......
Bottom's up eh? Pass the smoked salmon.

And good luck in getting that petrol to ride your bike.

Out of curiosity, what it is that you are going to do?

A better question was "What can we going do now to stop such things happening in future"? But hey-ho, if shit and fan ever do collide then I'll just look after the people I love in the best way I can.

[MadDogMcQ]

Hahahha, you're just like a politician - you don't answer the question asked - you suggest an alternative question  :rollin


And as for the petrol, I said "for as long as it's available to me" 

[Rusty]

Hahahha, you're just like a politician - you don't answer the question asked - you suggest an alternative question  :rollin

[size=1em]You might be right there MadDog. [/size] :lol
Politicians do say it that way don't they, while if you asked that of the military they'd say "That's classified information'. I suppose in the end they both mean the same thing though don't they?

And as for the petrol, I said "for as long as it's available to me" 

[size=1em]But that's exactly the attitude I don't understand of people.[/size] :\

[size=1em]Everything should be available to you. If it exists out there then it should be available to you. You sound like a kid that's happy to be allowed to play out until 8.00pm. [/size]People are far too submissive, they're just happy to sit around until their toys are taken away from them one by one. And even then they meekly accept it. If your child had cancer and there was a cure in existence would you want it or would you be satisfied that you could only have it if someone allowed you to have it?

Had I continued with this thread I intended to reveal several other technologies that already exist under black projects. The funding of which runs into the trillions of dollars each year. Remember I mentioned Shauberger's repulsine engine from 60 years ago? Not only is there a development of Viktor Shauberger's repulsine technology that delivers virtually free energy, but many other propulsion systems are in operation that don't use internal combustion. I'll say that again - they don't use internal combustion.

Those who are actually bothering to read this might be starting to put the pieces together now, it means we don't need oil, nor the wars that are propagated to ensure the sale of oil remains in support the US dollar. If this technology were even hinted at, the US economy would collapse as their currency is based almost entirely on the trade of oil.  When people say the war in Iraq was about oil they are not thinking right. It's not about the aquisition of oil - America has oil of it's own. It's about controlling the Sale of oil, and ensuring that it remains saleable only in US dollars.

[size=1em]John Perkins: from gold standard to petro dollar[/size]

Without the Petro-Dollar there is no America, and without Oil there is no Petro-Dollar. Hence the suppression of new technology and repeated wars to maintain the status quo. The dilemma that they face is that many former employees on those secret projects are now turning whistleblower, or giving deathbed confessions of military technology secrets. It's something the governments can't prevent, they can only attempt damage limitation exercises by spreading disinformation, discrediting the source, and encouraging ridicule.

Remember the HAARP technology I told you about? The one that has the capability to change the weather? Well when testing it they noticed that it also had unpleasant side effects, such as it can be aimed to cause earthquakes and volcano eruptions. The Israeli's want to attack Iran, but I think they have been told to hold off while the US try HAARP first.  I don't know who this guy is but watch his short video.

[size=1em]The Path To WW3: HAARP Targeting Iran Nuclear Reactors with Earthquakes[/size]
Surely you have to ask yourselves how come you don't know this stuff? It's happening right there in front of you, and while the technology exists to allow a huge leap forward for the whole of mankind it is hidden from you.  Meanwhile we are micro managed by media propaganda into endless wars. Go figure.

[budgiemurray]

While this is all very interesting we've kinda wandered away from the topic of the conversation of the thread in the first place..  :eek
If I want doom and gloom I just gotta look at my bank account after the bills come off.. can we get back on topic and move the rest to a different thead perhaps.. 
Budgie

[Rusty]

Sure. I've no problem with that, why don't we ask the original poster? 

In fact, there's no need. I'll post one last point and then I'm done - and gone.

I'm trying to give you something here, think of it as the gift of sight. People are posting plenty about the crippling price of fuel or the pitiful state of their bank accounts, with ever longer hours at work just to get by. The 'big secret' is that it doesn't need to be that way. We are all considered to be what Henry Kissinger referred to as 'useless eaters'.

Don't you ever pause to think why it is that when it comes to election time you supposedly have choices, yet the only choice you have is to vote for a man you don't really like in order to remove a man you like even less? That's not choice. You're being duped.

I know all this goes over the heads of many, others have no interest, while others still have only self interest. So these final words are aimed at those that are left, the few who are of independent mind. The ultimate tyranny in a society is not control by martial law, but control by psychological manipulation. Manipulation through which reality is not only defined for you, but defined in such a way that those within it do not even realise they are in prison.

Alternative energy exists. Alternate propulsion systems exist. The generation of free non-nuclear energy has been perfected. The Hughes air corporation had anti-gravity technology over 50 years ago. Rocket engines, jet engines, internal combustion engines, wind turbines, solar and nuclear power are all obsolete technologies that are expensively continued because of the interests vested in the status quo.

I see people on here arguing about local politics. Politics is as obsolete as the internal combustion engine. They should be studying geopolitics, and soon Exopolitics. The entire global macro-economic system is based on oil, the products derived from it, or the products that use it. The world's governments have painted themselves into a corner, and interests far more powerful than they themselves are require that fossil fuels continue to be used. Everything rests on oil as a commodity, like a huge house of cards made up of vested interests.

Wars are fought to protect the petro dollar, and the increase in Earth's population to 7 billion will require ever more dependency on this outdated but perpetuated technology. The result is ever spiralling pollution and ever more wars. Therefore climate change is driven by fossil fuel pollution that needn't be, but the technology to avoid it is suppressed to serve the interests of the few over the many. This isn't just joe blogs on the internet telling you this, this is what I relay to you from others.

The list of 'crackpots' is long, I'm unable to list them all so in no particular order or importance I'll just give your four. They are of this calibre.

Gordon Cooper.  Gemini and Mercury Astronaut


Mark McClelland. N.A.S.A space craft operator. Worked 34 years on Mercury, Apollo,Skylab, Space shuttle, and the International space station.

John Huchison. John demonstrates anti-gravity and molecular alignment technology.

Edgar Mitchell Astronaut. Apollo 14.

Ok I'm done. Next time you watch the news just maybe you'll be able to join the dots a little better, or maybe you won't. It's entirely up to you, as it always was.  Most are happy to let it all slip through their fingers then grumble about the results.  At least I can say I tried.

Bye fella's.

[Oldgit]

Buy a new one  :pc

[Phil TK]

Ok I'm done. Next time you watch the news just maybe you'll be able to join the dots a little better, or maybe you won't.

I seem to remember David Icke saying something similar. The problem with this sort of paranoid conspiracy theory stuff is that none of it is really based on hard evidence, just a bonkers interpretation of events.
Also, people with power and shady political ambitions don't have a monopoly on brilliant ideas/inventions y'know. Some of us normal folk outside the military etc do come up with great inventions and technology all the time and we don't usually get kidnapped by MI5 before we can tell the rest of the world.
I used to be a patent 'bonded' draughtsman years ago, I've drawn one or two curious things over the years, some with a military bent - and I'm still here.

[Chillum]

I seem to remember David Icke saying something similar. The problem with this sort of paranoid conspiracy theory stuff is that none of it is really based on hard evidence, just a bonkers interpretation of events.

Have you read it though Phil? I have a copy and was looking through it the other day and there is a lot of written evidence, names, dates meetings, the people who own things etc. All* he did was join the dots and paint a picture. Might not have been 100% accurate* but there is a lot of stuff everyone was saying was crackers that has actually turned out to be true.













*lizards