Quote:the question should be....just what will the miltant scots moan aboot when they do get independance.? [img alt=:rolleyes]http://foc-u.co.uk/Smileys/efocicon/rolleyes.gif[/img]
tbh to my mind your constant diatribe remind me of woolfy in citizen smith....make a life out of protesting ...what would yer life be like if ye had noothing ta moan aboot ! [img alt=:eek]http://foc-u.co.uk/Smileys/efocicon/shocked.gif[/img]
Miltant scots, diatribe, woolfy?
Nevermind. But yes, isn't it about time that Scots grew up, stopped blaming the English for our woes and actually did something about it?
Quote:Scottish Welfare state would be as open for abuse as the current UK one
I don't think welfare is an issue. It's a side issue.
It's not welfare claimants that are crippling the UK, it's greedy bankers, the bonus culture, tax evasion etc.
Welfare always needs careful management, but you deal with the pennies once you have the pounds sorted out. In the UK we have a government in power who don't want to tackle the big issues.
The Tories are prepared to put our economy on hold, stifle economic recovery, get us fighting amongst ourselves, so they can keep their hands, and their buddies hands on their big fat untaxed stacks of cash.
17 years of Tory rule led to devolution. Scotland needs to wake up quick, lets not wait for another 10-15 years, or more, of Tory rule to realise finally that we have little politically in common with England and that once again we've been focced over by a government we never wanted.. We gotta get out now.
Oh, will Osborne cut the 50p rate?
Lets see and rough figures as I don't know the current rates exactly. A £180 per week person now wont pay tax? 52 x £180 = £9360 less already tax free is it still 567? so - £5,670 leaving £3,690 taxable at 22%? That is a whole £811.80 the country loses.
A person on £300,000 and ignoring their numerous fiddles which there will likely be many same £5670 then up to £38k @ 22% £38k to £150k @ 40% then 150+ @ 50% That persons tax burden if the proposed 45% is correct would drop by £7,500 although a big sum...not enough to be leaving the country over when you are left with a pre-fiddle salary of £179,340
Many of us are in the 40% bracket for part of our salaries, a straight 40% of that £300,000 would reduce it to £180,000.00....smoke and mirrors ...the rich get richer, the country gets poorer....theres a sop to the very few people who are such low earners as a popularist move.
The Con Dems fooling no-one
The Frying Scotsman
George Osborne "NORTH SEA OIL FIELD ALLOWANCE
"We are also introducing new allowances including a 3 billion pounds new field allowance for large and deep fields to open up West of Shetland, the last area of the basin left to be developed. A huge boost for investment in the North Sea"
You're all right George it's not yours to flog
The Frying Scotsman
(21-03-12, 03:14 PM)BIG MAC link Wrote:You're all right George it's not yours to flog
Nor is the Argentin..er I mean Falklands oil.
But we're having it anyway :b
I think you will find there are eager beavers currently writing very clever 'licences' for mineral extraction which would be 'tendered and sold' just before independence became reality.
The Frying Scotsman
Don't forget Mr Mac, as if you need me to tell you, that the 45% tax bracket is only a stepping stone to 40%.
Not sure what is happening with the 40% tax bracket, but it was lowered the other year catching more than ever.
The rise in personal allowance to 9205 is welcome, but realistically just means a drop in benefit payments for most.
The real issue at the lower end of the earnings scale is that too many big wealthy companies take the minimum wage as a standard or living wage. It was never supposed to be that. So that leaves those on better to mid earnings forking out benefits for those on minimum or near minimum wages. So this means tax payer subsides the biggest richest companies in the land, and their rich shareholders.
But of course we are all in it together.
But 300,000 more people will be drawn into the higher rate - 40% - tax band from 2013/14 as the threshold is reduced from £42,475 to £41,450.
For those 'celebrating' paying £339 less income tax this year....using VNAs figs a difference of £1,025.00 which taxed at 40% = £410 ...welcome to the world of ConDem slipperiness
The Frying Scotsman
And that's the second time they have lowered the 40% rate.
Of course those who got us into this mess get away Scot free.
I loved Trainspotting, though,,,,, :lol
So I make it that a bank boss, on say a million a year (not including bonuses) is now 42,500 quid a year better off.
And according to Osborne, if he didn't the big bosses their big tax cut they would up sticks and move abroad. 1. Aye right and 2. Who cares.
45% of something is better than 100% of nothing
thou shalt not kick
50% of something reduces the national debt and if they don't like it they can foc off because someone else will be happy of their stratospheric salary. All the spool about 'Attracting the talent' ...the senior managers often do SFA other than make sure middle managers keep them out of the sh1t. the middle managers put up with this hoping one day they will be senior managers....Banking made simple..
The Frying Scotsman
Quote:All the spool about 'Attracting the talent' ...the senior managers often do SFA other than make sure middle managers keep them out of the sh1t.
And it was exactly the same shit we used to hear about the people - the talent - that bankrupted us.
Oh why oh why do people put up with this!
What choice do we have apart from tyring to drag ourselves up the greasy pole?
As for tax laws, I haven't and probably won't ever see propper figures to make my own mind up so can only listen to the lies politicians (on both sides) spread. Unfortunately the people who earn enough to pay the larger proportion of taxes can also afford accountants to get them off paying.
thou shalt not kick
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