Is it still 10%+2 (ish) above the speed limit for the road as discretion for tyre wear and calibration of speedo's? I know if you run a satnav next to your bike or car speedo you will be sadly dissapointed!
I agree- with higher speed there is a need for higher skills all round but how would you enforce extra training? another plate for the main driver bnut he/she may not be driving at the time.........
I like the French idea about slower in the wet but then the barrack room lawyers would want a definition of 'wet'- is that full raining or just drizzle or passing through wet roads when the shower has passed? :eek
If lorries stay at their slower 60mph- will that apply to caravans too? or maybe ban them from the road alltogether except in the silent hours through the night- now there's a thought!
Greybeard now
Or keep the limit the same but let us under and over take slower vehicles that would speed up flow
Its just a ride
Think reminding/forcing people to keep left is a great idea. Rather than banning lorries from the road altogether ban them from overtaking at peak times.
thou shalt not kick
BR, that was discussed a few years back, but the outcry from the road safety crowd put an instant stop to it - but having driven in the states a couple of months back, where overtaking on both sides is allowed, it seemed fine to me - at least people seemed to have more awareness of what was around them before changing lane. There would no doubt be a "transition" phase here, if it was brought in, while people got used to it - with a corresponding (& temporary) increase in accident rate - and that alone will likely mean it never happens. Shame though.
(03-10-11, 03:38 PM)bigralphie link Wrote:Or keep the limit the same but let us under and over take slower vehicles that would speed up flow
That Sounds Great with people that can drive but it seems that people dont know how to overtake properly, or use mirrors, or even look out of windows! :\
Ride It Like You've Stole It
The problem with legally permitted "undertaking" is you'll get some idiots who see it as legitimising carving back and forth across the lanes in the hope of saving a few minutes on their journey plus you'll get others who'll think "well it's ok if I sit in the middle lane all the time because people can pass either side of me..."
agree with passing in any lane, just drove in states and it works a treat.
I do it now sometimes, won't go from lane one to three to pass.
not that bothered about speed limits, we do what we like anyway.
Sent from my pants - using talkingbollocks
I came down the M11, round the M25 and onto the M23 yesterday and the number of tw@ts who hog the middle lane is unbelievable. Worst offenders believe it or not were BMW's.
On several occasions I overtook a BMW using lane 3 then moved over to lane 1 for the next couple of miles only to find the BMW had finally caught up with me just as I was about to overtake the next thing in lane2. Feccin BMW went past me then didnt go into lane 3, just stayed behind the next braindead feccer in lane 2 whilst I went past them both in lane 3.
So what I can hear you saying. I had cruise control set to 70ish and was going a constant speed all that time where they were playing around with their speed and getting nowhere.
Another ex-Fazer rider that is a foccer again
speed limits aint the problem, its shite driving standards. I rode back from liverpool cupla weekends ago, and it was faster to ride ( legally) in lane1 and overtake into lane 2 than queue up in lane 3.
Appalling driving creates the queues, not really the difference between 70 and 80. We have this congestion now when almost everyone drives at 80...so whats gonna change ?
