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front sprocket part number question - Val - 06-06-15

Hi All,

My service manual and Yamaha part finder http://parts.yamaha-motor.co.uk/ypec_b2c/

say the front sprocket for my 2003 5RT4 model is: 4TV-17460-00

Fowlers part finder says different number?

3HE-17460-00

Any idea which one I should buy?

thank you

cheers
Val

Re: front sprocket part number question - Dave48 - 06-06-15

Depends whether you are ordering from Yamaha dealer or Fowlers I suppose? :lol

Re: front sprocket part number question - J_Dub - 06-06-15

I'd get one of these; http://www.wemoto.com/bikes/yamaha/fzs_600_fazer_sp/02-03/picture/sprocket_front_-_jt/ and don't forget to buy a tab washer too!

Re: front sprocket part number question - anutz - 06-06-15

I have a FZS 2001 and got this - only problem i had was bending the tab over, but then thats just me...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GENUINE-YAMAHA-FZS600-FAZER-FRONT-SPROCKET-NUT-AND-WASHER-KIT-/141276105948

You will need to double check it suits yours




Re: front sprocket part number question - darrsi - 06-06-15

Same difference.
Companies can make up any part number they want, to suit them.


https://www.yamahamotorcyclespares.co.uk/product/YAMAHA/4TV174600000/SPROCKET,%20DRIVE&uid=0


If you're just buying a sprocket though i'd be inclined to not get mugged off and try a Renthal one or similar.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xyamaha+fzs600+front+sprocket.TRS0&_nkw=yamaha+fzs600+front+sprocket&_sacat=0

Re: front sprocket part number question - sinto607276 - 06-06-15

While on the same subject....
Do you think mines is ok?
Was doing a spot of cleaning as weather is rubbish as usual in Glasgow, not sure if this has been upgraded or not?

Cheers.

Re: front sprocket part number question - riedrider - 06-06-15

It is not upgraded.
I mounted the new nut last month:

old:

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new:

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comparison:

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Re: front sprocket part number question - darrsi - 06-06-15

It's quite simple, if you can see any threads at all it's the old 9mm nut.
You can see in the photo the new 12mm nut totally covers all of the threads and is flush with the end of the shaft.

Re: front sprocket part number question - Val - 06-06-15

(06-06-15, 11:59 AM)darrsi link Wrote: Same difference.
Companies can make up any part number they want, to suit them.


https://www.yamahamotorcyclespares.co.uk/product/YAMAHA/4TV174600000/SPROCKET,%20DRIVE&uid=0


If you're just buying a sprocket though i'd be inclined to not get mugged off and try a Renthal one or similar.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xyamaha+fzs600+front+sprocket.TRS0&_nkw=yamaha+fzs600+front+sprocket&_sacat=0

That what I was thinking initially too, however OEM front sprocket has 8 holes and a big red rubber thingy attached which any of aftermarket ones lack. Look at riedrider photo and you will see it.

[Image: %24T2eC16NHJGQE9noMZGOiBRL1Slmn9g~~60_35.JPG]

I have digged out in forums and although nobody so far is sure why is that (given the fact that is the only sprocket in the world that has such feature) some guys suggested that may something to do with noise and calming the chain movement. I have looked at pictures of some old used ones and you can see clearly the marks from the chain there too.

Anyhow long story short the price difference for the front one is not so huge as for the rear one, OEM one is £24 any aftermarket is around £10.

Hence I decided to go for OEM front and Renthal rear :-)

Probably will get the one 4TV-17460-00 recomended in Yamaha online parts finder and will buy it from Fowlers, Fowlers say its for YZF600R however I tend to beleive Yamaha and my service manual LOL

https://www.fowlersparts.co.uk/parts/5541979/yzf600r-2001-4tvb-europe-deep-purplish-blue-metallic-c/transmission

Re: front sprocket part number question - darrsi - 06-06-15

(06-06-15, 01:00 PM)Val link Wrote: [quote author=darrsi link=topic=17216.msg198421#msg198421 date=1433588385]
Same difference.
Companies can make up any part number they want, to suit them.


https://www.yamahamotorcyclespares.co.uk/product/YAMAHA/4TV174600000/SPROCKET,%20DRIVE&uid=0


If you're just buying a sprocket though i'd be inclined to not get mugged off and try a Renthal one or similar.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xyamaha+fzs600+front+sprocket.TRS0&_nkw=yamaha+fzs600+front+sprocket&_sacat=0

That what I was thinking initially too, however OEM front sprocket has a big red rubber thingy which any of aftermarket ones lack.

I have digged out in forums and although nobody so far is sure why is that (given the fact that is the only sprocket in the world that has such feature) some guys suggested that may something to do with noise and calming the chain movement. I have looked at pictures of some old used ones and you can see clearly the marks from the chain there too.

Anyhow long story short the price difference for the fron tone is not so huge as for the rear one, OEM one is £24 any aftermarket is around £10.

Hence I decided to go for OEM front and Renthal rear :-)
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Are you not changing the chain?

Re: front sprocket part number question - sinto607276 - 06-06-15

(06-06-15, 01:57 AM)Val link Wrote: Hi All,

My service manual and Yamaha part finder http://parts.yamaha-motor.co.uk/ypec_b2c/

say the front sprocket for my 2003 5RT4 model is: 4TV-17460-00

Fowlers part finder says different number?

3HE-17460-00

Any idea which one I should buy?

thank you

cheers
Val

Just a thought, is one original part number and the other is the 'upgraded' part number?

Re: front sprocket part number question - Val - 06-06-15

yes I am chaning the chain too, that is way looking for sprokets and the upgraded 12mm nut  Smile

Re: front sprocket part number question - Val - 06-06-15

(06-06-15, 01:08 PM)sinto link Wrote: [quote author=Val link=topic=17216.msg198393#msg198393 date=1433552243]
Hi All,

My service manual and Yamaha part finder http://parts.yamaha-motor.co.uk/ypec_b2c/

say the front sprocket for my 2003 5RT4 model is: 4TV-17460-00

Fowlers part finder says different number?

3HE-17460-00

Any idea which one I should buy?

thank you

cheers
Val

Just a thought, is one original part number and the other is the 'upgraded' part number?
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Not likely given the fact that on BOTH places where they sell 4TV-17460-00 AND 3HE-17460-00 Fowlers have the old 9mm nut as their part number for sale, LOL: 90179-18020

The new one 12mm is 90179-18006 which I will buy from ebay as a kit with the washer:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GENUINE-YAMAHA-FZS600-FAZER-FRONT-SPROCKET-NUT-AND-WASHER-KIT-/141276105948

I even will not bother to speak with Fowlers parts department, if you can't fix your parts referal system what is the point to speak with somebody over the phone to hear him saying "you will be fine trust me" LOL

Re: front sprocket part number question - darrsi - 06-06-15

Normal to just buy a DID X ring sprocket and chain kit, makes life much simpler.


They're decent, and tried and tested.  :thumbup


http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xfzs+600+did+x+ring.TRS0&_nkw=fzs+600+did+x+ring&_sacat=0

Re: front sprocket part number question - sinto607276 - 06-06-15

(06-06-15, 01:15 PM)Val link Wrote: I even will not bother to speak with Fowlers parts department, if you can't fix your parts referal system what is the point to speak with somebody over the phone to hear him saying "you will be fine trust me" LOL

Yeah, some parts people are a pain!

There's two threads at the moment about this front sprocket,  reading between the two, I'll need to be looking into doing the front, as well as a chain, may as well do the back one too. Onto the bank manager now :eek

Re: front sprocket part number question - sinto607276 - 06-06-15

(06-06-15, 01:20 PM)darrsi link Wrote: Normal to just buy a DID X ring sprocket and chain kit, makes life much simpler.


They're decent, and tried and tested.  :thumbup


http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xfzs+600+did+x+ring.TRS0&_nkw=fzs+600+did+x+ring&_sacat=0

some difference in prices there, guess the expensive ones include the two sprockets as well, need to investigate,  any recommendations from anyone?

Re: front sprocket part number question - Val - 06-06-15

(06-06-15, 01:27 PM)sinto link Wrote: [quote author=darrsi link=topic=17216.msg198452#msg198452 date=1433593258]
Normal to just buy a DID X ring sprocket and chain kit, makes life much simpler.


They're decent, and tried and tested.  :thumbup


http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xfzs+600+did+x+ring.TRS0&_nkw=fzs+600+did+x+ring&_sacat=0

some difference in prices there, guess the expensive ones include the two sprockets as well, need to investigate,  any recommendations from anyone?
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D.I.D and Tsubaki are the best chains IMO opinion, given the fact I have decided to assemble custom kit with OEM rubber thingy front sprocket, I have decided to go for this chain:

http://www.bandcexpress.co.uk/buy/Tsubaki-Tsubaki-Alpha-X-Ring-Gold-Drive-Chain---530---110-links/530APX-110.953#eq1

Or even I can safe some money and get this O-ring Tsubaki:

http://www.bandcexpress.co.uk/buy/Tsubaki-Tsubaki-Omega-O-Ring-Drive-Chain---530---110-links/530MG-110.953#eq1

The first one is £84 the second is £61 and I am not convinced yet which one I will get. At the end of the day the chain life mostly depends how you maintain it, so not 100% convinced I need to splash say £140 for some super duper extra heavy duty extreme gold whatnot XXYZ chain that will do the same job and last the same as well maintained but high qulaity Tsubaki O-rin for £60.

I have the feeling we may fall victims of marketing bollocks from chain manufacturers trying to get some money from us  :lol hope not  :rolleyes




Re: front sprocket part number question - darrsi - 06-06-15

(06-06-15, 01:27 PM)sinto link Wrote: [quote author=darrsi link=topic=17216.msg198452#msg198452 date=1433593258]
Normal to just buy a DID X ring sprocket and chain kit, makes life much simpler.


They're decent, and tried and tested.  :thumbup


http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xfzs+600+did+x+ring.TRS0&_nkw=fzs+600+did+x+ring&_sacat=0

some difference in prices there, guess the expensive ones include the two sprockets as well, need to investigate,  any recommendations from anyone?
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Gold ones are more expensive, and look lovely when new, but if you ride in all weathers like me, all year round, then it soon gets covered in shit, unless you feel the urge to clean it all the time which makes no sense.


Some are just chains, rather than kits, that's why the prices vary.


This will do you.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/YAMAHA-FZS600-FAZER-98-03-DID-X-RING-CHAIN-SPROCKET-KIT-/400676831619?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item5d4a334183

Re: front sprocket part number question - darrsi - 06-06-15

(06-06-15, 01:37 PM)Val link Wrote: [quote author=sinto link=topic=17216.msg198455#msg198455 date=1433593677]
[quote author=darrsi link=topic=17216.msg198452#msg198452 date=1433593258]
Normal to just buy a DID X ring sprocket and chain kit, makes life much simpler.


They're decent, and tried and tested.  :thumbup


http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xfzs+600+did+x+ring.TRS0&_nkw=fzs+600+did+x+ring&_sacat=0

some difference in prices there, guess the expensive ones include the two sprockets as well, need to investigate,  any recommendations from anyone?
[/quote]

D.I.D and Tsubaki are the best chains IMO opinion, given the fact I have decided to assemble custom kit with OEM rubber thingy front sprocket, I have decided to go for this chain:

http://www.bandcexpress.co.uk/buy/Tsubaki-Tsubaki-Alpha-X-Ring-Gold-Drive-Chain---530---110-links/530APX-110.953#eq1

Or even I can safe some money and get this O-ring Tsubaki:

http://www.bandcexpress.co.uk/buy/Tsubaki-Tsubaki-Omega-O-Ring-Drive-Chain---530---110-links/530MG-110.953#eq1

The first one is £84 the second is £61 and I am not convinced yet which one I will get. At the end of the day the chain life mostly depends how you maintain it, so not 100% convinced I need to splash say £140 for some super duper extra heavy duty extreme gold whatnot XXYZ chain that will do the same job and last the same as well maintained but high qulaity Tsubaki O-rin for £60.

I have the feeling we may fall victims of marketing bollocks from chain manufacturers trying to get some money from us  :lol hope not  :rolleyes
[/quote]


You don't need extra heavy duty, it's been talked about before.


Nobody has really cared about the rubber thing either, and i've not heard anyone complain that it's not there or being missed.

Re: front sprocket part number question - sinto607276 - 06-06-15

Yeah it's all food for thought and down to personal preference Smile

What's the difference in front and rear sprocket numbers? I see some kits have 15 & 48, just wondering if it's worth going for different sizes and what it'd do?