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Occasional Starting Problems - Any advice welcomed - jonesthesteam - 31-05-12

Hi - On my '98 FZS600 I have an intermittent starting issue, sometimes it will start straight away on the button (hot or cold) and other times there is just a clicking noise, If I move (rock) the bike forwards or back whilst in gear it will then usually start on the starter again (not always, sometimes takes a few "rocks"), it can always be jump started if I happen to be on a hill


It has just had a brand new battery fitted so does anyone have an idea of what else may be causing this?


It's going into my local garage for service next week and they will look at it and are happy for me to supply parts (eBay) and they will fit for me, just wondered what I should be looking for or if anyone else has experienced the same? - starter motor, relays etc etc


Any help appreciated


Jonesthesteam







Re: Occasional Starting Problems - Any advice welcomed - CRH - 31-05-12

sounds like starter solinoid fkd?....you will find one on ebay??....cheap!!!!!!!!


Re: Occasional Starting Problems - Any advice welcomed - jonesthesteam - 31-05-12

(31-05-12, 08:05 PM)CRH link Wrote: sounds like starter solinoid fkd?....you will find one on ebay??....cheap!!!!!!!!


Thanks - Do you mean one of these?


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/yamaha-fzs600-fazer-starter-relay-98-/261033292260?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item3cc6cbf1e4#ht_500wt_1287


Sorry - Not very technical  Smile


Jonesthesteam


Re: Occasional Starting Problems - Any advice welcomed - CRH - 31-05-12

yes mate?...worth trying that first, could be cheap fix? Smile ....also make sure your battery connections are tight?


Re: Occasional Starting Problems - Any advice welcomed - jonesthesteam - 31-05-12

(31-05-12, 08:35 PM)CRH link Wrote: yes mate?...worth trying that first, could be cheap fix? Smile ....also make sure your battery connections are tight?


At that price its worth buying just in case - Thanks for your help


Jonesthesteam


Re: Occasional Starting Problems - Any advice welcomed - red98 - 31-05-12

(31-05-12, 08:05 PM)CRH link Wrote: sounds like starter solinoid fkd?....you will find one on ebay??....cheap!!!!!!!!


yep....solinoid from me too...its easy to fit you might be able to do it yourself and save a few quids  Smile


Re: Occasional Starting Problems - Any advice welcomed - ade the blade - 31-05-12

well i go for starter motor........because our mate says it will fire up if rocked in gear, sooooooooooooo how does that effect a solenoid / relay 18" back from the motor. its obviously something mechanical ( moving ) hence my vote. sowwwwwy :rolleyes


Re: Occasional Starting Problems - Any advice welcomed - CRH - 31-05-12

dont listen to the blade mate??....he rides a honda? :evil :evil :evil :evil :evil :evil :evil :evil :evil :evil :evil :evil :evil :evil :evil :evil :evil :evil :evil :evil :evil :evil :evil :evil :evil


Re: Occasional Starting Problems - Any advice welcomed - ade the blade - 31-05-12

(31-05-12, 09:52 PM)CRH link Wrote: dont listen to the blade mate??....he rides a honda? :evil :evil :evil :evil :evil :evil :evil :evil :evil :evil :evil :evil :evil :evil :evil :evil :evil :evil :evil :evil :evil :evil :evil :evil :evil
you got it.......and its me 19th !!!!!! :lol


Re: Occasional Starting Problems - Any advice welcomed - jonesthesteam - 31-05-12

Garage thought it may be starter motor when I popped in with it today, they checked the battery and told me about the "rocking in gear" tip, will try the relay as only a tenner and then starter motor if relay doesn't fix it, they seem quite cheap on the 'bay as well


Thanks for your advice (I like Honda's as well  Smile )


Jonesthesteam


Re: Occasional Starting Problems - Any advice welcomed - CRH - 31-05-12

fks sake dont lett the blade hear that mate???? :rolleyes ......cant get a helmet to fitt him now????????????? :rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes


Re: Occasional Starting Problems - Any advice welcomed - ade the blade - 31-05-12

(31-05-12, 10:12 PM)jonesthesteam link Wrote: Garage thought it may be starter motor when I popped in with it today, they checked the battery and told me about the "rocking in gear" tip, will try the relay as only a tenner and then starter motor if relay doesn't fix it, they seem quite cheap on the 'bay as well


Thanks for your advice (I like Honda's as well  Smile )


Jonesthesteam
good lad Wink  and good luck with the bike. easy fix whichever one needs sorting ! keep us informed of your progress Smile


Re: Occasional Starting Problems - Any advice welcomed - ade the blade - 31-05-12

(31-05-12, 10:15 PM)CRH link Wrote: fks sake dont lett the blade hear that mate???? :rolleyes ......cant get a helmet to fitt him now????????????? :rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes
maybe thats why i`m kept busy 7 days a week in me workshop mate. all work very little play. but i loves it :lol :lol :lol


Re: Occasional Starting Problems - Any advice welcomed - red98 - 01-06-12

(31-05-12, 09:52 PM)CRH link Wrote: dont listen to the blade mate??....he rides a honda? :evil :evil :evil :evil :evil :evil :evil :evil :evil :evil :evil :evil :evil :evil :evil :evil :evil :evil :evil :evil :evil :evil :evil :evil :evil

crh mate..............ive got a honda aswell  Big Grin .......theres a few of us about  Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin
love to see a picture of your norton.......


Re: Occasional Starting Problems - Any advice welcomed - CRH - 01-06-12

(01-06-12, 06:40 AM)red98 link Wrote: [quote author=CRH link=topic=3262.msg26506#msg26506 date=1338497525]
dont listen to the blade mate??....he rides a honda? :evil :evil :evil :evil :evil :evil :evil :evil :evil :evil :evil :evil :evil :evil :evil :evil :evil :evil :evil :evil :evil :evil :evil :evil :evil

crh mate..............ive got a honda aswell  Big Grin .......theres a few of us about  Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin
love to see a picture of your norton.......
[/quote]  only jokin red! i dont mind hondas....after all?...they dont brake down as often do they?? :rolleyes ...i will sort some pics out, when i can get to it??....i have it in storage at a mate of mine in lincolshire !...do miss it though? :'( .....hopeing to see...the man? Wink ...today!!..will lett you know later??   


Re: Occasional Starting Problems - Any advice welcomed - Solved! - jonesthesteam - 08-06-12

Got the bike back from local garage today after servicing it.


On the forums advice I supplied them a S/H solenoid (eBay £3) and S/H starter motor (eBay £16) and the winning answer was..................................Starter Motor!


Posting just in case anyone has similar issues in the future - Many thanks to all those who gave advice, much appreciated, I am sure the solenoid will come in handy some time in the future.


Smile


Jonesthesteam


Re: Occasional Starting Problems - Any advice welcomed - AdieR - 08-06-12

Just saw this thread, I would have said motor too, mate at work had identical symptoms on a Goldwing not long ago.


Re: Occasional Starting Problems - Any advice welcomed - red98 - 08-06-12

ive changed my mind now.....i think its the starter motor  Big Grin


Re: Occasional Starting Problems - Any advice welcomed - Solved! - ade the blade - 08-06-12

(08-06-12, 02:16 PM)jonesthesteam link Wrote: Got the bike back from local garage today after servicing it.


On the forums advice I supplied them a S/H solenoid (eBay £3) and S/H starter motor (eBay £16) and the winning answer was..................................Starter Motor!


Posting just in case anyone has similar issues in the future - Many thanks to all those who gave advice, much appreciated, I am sure the solenoid will come in handy some time in the future.


Smile


Jonesthesteam
glad your sorted mate........keep the spare in a nice drawer thats handy......maybe someone on her would need it sometime down the road.


Re: Occasional Starting Problems - Any advice welcomed - ade the blade - 08-06-12

(08-06-12, 07:28 PM)red98 link Wrote: ive changed my mind now.....i think its the starter motor  Big Grin
tut tut......theres always one :rolleyes :lol ......good evening by the way !! Smile