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Re: From wednesday we can use our bikes again. - YamFazFan - 14-05-20
I know a Richard The 3rd :lol
Re: From wednesday we can use our bikes again. - YamFazFan - 14-05-20
(14-05-20, 02:28 PM)Gnasher link Wrote: The real and pressing question has now to be are you really fit to be an Administrator with such bigoted views? I'd argue you're not.You're not angling for the job are you Gnasher? :eek . None of our posts will last on here for more than 5 foccin minutes unless they happen to chime with your opinion :'( .
Re: From wednesday we can use our bikes again. - agricola - 14-05-20
(14-05-20, 02:28 PM)Gnasher link Wrote: [quote author=BBROWN1664 link=topic=26147.msg314455#msg314455 date=1589398104]
Gnasher, you obviously have an issue with something. From what you say, your wife is not one of the lazy sods as she doesnt have a choice. Satisfied?
Others who run small businesses who have decided to close their business and grab the money for nothing on the other hand....
BBROWN1664
My issue as you put it, is people who make ridiculous bigoted and slanderous comments about others, based on small minded attitudes and biased opinions.
Judging from your last statement
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Others who run small businesses who have decided to close their business and grab the money for nothing on the other hand....
I put it to you, it's you who's got an issue, perhaps you're a failed businessman or just don't like the fact others have skills or abilities you don't have and they can make money out of them. Or is it you're just too lazy or unskilled to try? You're persistence in still making bigoted and slanderous comments about the small businesses now, is noted and I'm/we're assuming you have some kind of evidence or proof in these accusations, or did you just make them up based on small minded and clearly biased attitude you have towards people running small businesses?
The real and pressing question has now to be are you really fit to be an Administrator with such bigoted views? I'd argue you're not.
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You're crossing the line here. Stop taking offence where none is intended, stop creating arguments where none exist. Grow up.
Re: From wednesday we can use our bikes again. - Gnasher - 14-05-20
You're crossing the line here. Stop taking offence where none is intended, stop creating arguments where none exist. Grow up.
Really, :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin
Re: From wednesday we can use our bikes again. - Gnasher - 14-05-20
(14-05-20, 05:21 PM)YamFazFan link Wrote: You're not angling for the job are you Gnasher? :eek . None of our posts will last on here for more than 5 foccin minutes unless they happen to chime with your opinion :'( .
:rollin :rollin
No mate, not at all. As stated I get pissed when people make bigoted statements, based on some obvious personnel small minded attitudes. In this case sweeping statement about those furloughed are lazy because they've chosen to be etc, especially when my Mrs is one of millions currently furloughed, others who own or run small business on here can speak for themselves should they so wish.
Now had BBROWN1664 in his first reply just said, I'm not referring to your Mrs mate sorry or something, that would have been it.
But no some load of old clap trap trying to defend an offensiveness statement, playing with the word chose, utter bollocks. If people like agricola are happy to allow people to talk about their Mrs as some kind of scrounger, that's his business, I'm not.
If the cap fit's wear it!
Re: From wednesday we can use our bikes again. - mtread - 14-05-20
Quote: Gnasher, you obviously have an issue with something. From what you say, your wife is not one of the lazy sods as she doesnt have a choice. Satisfied? Others who run small businesses who have decided to close their business and grab the money for nothing on the other hand....
Just to bring some facts into this....
Nobody who is furloughed is by their own choice. The decision is made by the employer, not the employee. As admitted by a government minister yesterday, many furloughed employees do not yet realise they will not have a job to go back to. When furlough ends they will be made redundant as the company contracts.
Small Businesses who pay tax under self assessment can carry on working (if possible). The grant is to cover loss of business from 1% to 100%. So why would they 'decide to close their business' unless they actually had to?
Small businesses which are limited companies get nothing, other than an interest free repayable loan
As I said, just a few non political facts amongst a fog of nonsense. :b
Re: From wednesday we can use our bikes again. - BBROWN1664 - 14-05-20
Gnasher - One company I know of has furloughed half their staff. Nothing to do with Covid19, just because they saw it as a way of saving some money (no idea how) with the idea that the back log of work done by manufacturing will be moved to the finishing area instead. Prior to Covid, the backlog was building up and finishing were keeping up with the work they were being passed with a small buffer inbetween the two areas. Now they want to build up the buffer so furloughed the finishers for a couple of weeks.
For what its worth, I am not furloughed. I have a good job and have been as busy as pre-Covid, or even busier as the customer I am working with at the moment is pushing a lot of work our way that is Covid related or can be done without site visits
Mtread - Some small businesses where the "employee" is also the "employer" ie a director with a salary rather than from the dividends alone have shut themselves down unnecessarily so fall into the category ecasue they misunderstood the need to close
Re: From wednesday we can use our bikes again. - mtread - 14-05-20
Quote: Mtread - Some small businesses where the "employee" is also the "employer" ie a director with a salary rather than from the dividends alone have shut themselves down unnecessarily so fall into the category ecasue they misunderstood the need to closeSorry, I don't understand that. All self employed limited companies pay themselves a minimal salary (usually the £12500 freepay allowance) and take the rest in dividends. Why would they shut themselves down because of that? They can furlough the director (themselves), and claim 80% of 12500, but that's no comparison to their previous earnings. They too can carry on working, if allowed. Why would they purposely sit at home for just £840 a month, when usually their income is £70k+ a year?
Any company that doesn't understand that perhaps should get better advice :rolleyes
Re: From wednesday we can use our bikes again. - VNA - 14-05-20
Quote:The change in message on Sunday was to try to make people realise that HMG do not have a bottomless bucket of money to pay for all the lazy sods who could work SAFELY but chose to sit at home instead claiming their 80%I continue to work. I’m working this week. Next week I have to stay at home. Why? Because my employer has instructed me to do so.
Our governments need to start getting their heads together and figure out how they get more of the economy up and running.
Frankly I think we are a long way from doing so. As I understand it the key to getting the country running is, test,test,test, trace and isolate.
The virus is out there, and as soon as everybody goes back to work there is the possibility it will spread like wildfire. And still we are struggling to protect our care homes and vulnerable individuals living in our communities. So, its not so much that the virus will spread and infect the largely healthy workforce, but without routine testing of key workers,its who ends up getting it - and dying.
I’d also beware of the spread slowing naturally through the summer, leading to a return to work, only for the virus to take off when it hits its favoured colder conditions.
Most workers I know stuck at home are going spare. I also know folks who have been told to work from home going nuts too.
Re: From wednesday we can use our bikes again. - mtread - 14-05-20
Quote: One company I know of has furloughed half their staff. Nothing to do with Covid19, just because they saw it as a way of saving some money (no idea how) with the idea that the back log of work done by manufacturing will be moved to the finishing area instead. Prior to Covid, the backlog was building up and finishing were keeping up with the work they were being passed with a small buffer inbetween the two areas. Now they want to build up the buffer so furloughed the finishers for a couple of weeks.Sounds to me like a company that's not very good at managing its workload!
Either way, it's not the fault of the 'lazy' employee, is it?
Re: From wednesday we can use our bikes again. - fazersharp - 14-05-20
(14-05-20, 06:46 PM)mtread link Wrote: Small Businesses who pay tax under self assessment can carry on working (if possible). The grant is to cover loss of business from 1% to 100%.Its a pity that they could not look at what they put on their tax return in the box - what is the nature of your business, and then they could see who has lost work and who has not, eg a tattoo artist clearly could not carry on there will be some grey areas that will have to be assessed but to give all self employed even if they are not affected seems a mistake.
Re: From wednesday we can use our bikes again. - slappy - 14-05-20
Will you lot foc off out of this thread with your political shite, this thread was started by the OP as to remind people they could just go out on their bike for a ride if they chose to do so.[/size]Take your playground squabbles elsewhere, there have been enough threads ruined on this forum already. and
(13-05-20, 08:04 PM)steve 10562cc link Wrote:
I can assure every one that my intentions were to just remind people they could go out on their bikes today without fear of being pulled by the police just for being on a bike. Not to wind our fellow the Scottish & Welsh riders up, unlike some, I have more constructive things to do. No mine has stayed in the garage today but it won't tomorrow. Had to take my dog over the fields he exercises in but hasn't been able to go there as I've been sticking to the lock down and not driving my cage.
Can you lot not foccing read, talk about bikes and stop making this thread just a copy of the coronavirus thread, bunch of foccing wankers.
Re: From wednesday we can use our bikes again. - mtread - 14-05-20
Quote: Its a pity that they could not look at what they put on their tax return in the box - what is the nature of your business, and then they could see who has lost work and who has not, eg a tattoo artist clearly could not carry on there will be some grey areas that will have to be assessed but to give all self employed even if they are not affected seems a mistake.Don't you think they thought of that? Wouldn't work. My daughter is a childminder. Some carry on minding children of keyworkers, some have none. Also self employed can have two trades - tattoo artist and greengrocer.
Re: From wednesday we can use our bikes again. - Grahamm - 14-05-20
(13-05-20, 09:45 PM)fazersharp link Wrote: That is not how it was said, Can't be arsed to find the exact quote but it was along the lines of "please you are welcome to go and get a job at tescos or something to keep a good income and your job will be waiting for you when you return".
Lol! You claim I'm wrong, but "can't be arsed" to actually post any proof of it.
Here, let me help...!
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/mar/24/wetherspoons-denies-abandoning-staff-in-coronavirus-crisis
Quote:He aroused the ire of workers and MPs after sending a video message to staff telling them they would no longer be paid after Friday while the company works out details of a “furlough” scheme under which the government will pay 80% of wages.
They had food to buy, rent to pay, utilities to pay for etc etc, but at the time, the details of the Furlough scheme hadn't been sorted out, so the people who worked for him had *NO IDEA* when they were going to get paid again (if at all).
Quote:He advised them to seek work in Tesco, which is hiring staff to help it meet the country’s need for food delivery and distribution, if they needed employment in the meantime.
“If you’re offered a job… if you think it’s a good idea, do it.”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-52018360
He also decided that Weatherspoons wasn't going to pay its suppliers!
Quote:Tim Martin said in the video that staff who wanted to work for Tesco should do so and they will be given first priority when Wetherspoon pubs reopen
Note that "Will given given first priority"? Not "your job will be waiting for you", so these people would have to *apply* for their old jobs back!
(I won't even mention his claim that "There's been hardly any transmission of the virus within pubs" as if, somehow, the advice of medical experts didn't apply to him!
But, look, you keep on defending the actions of right wing "I'm alright, Jack" multi-millionaires. I'll keep on giving a sh!t about ordinary people...
Now, since this thread is supposed to be about getting back on our bikes (which I *won't* be doing, please enjoy the last word (which will probably be some Trumpian accusation of spreading "Fake News"...!)
Re: From wednesday we can use our bikes again. - steve 10562cc - 14-05-20
Usual foccing idiots hijacked a thread, WHAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE ABOUT BIKERS RIDING BIKES after a long lay off. You wonder why this forum p-ss-s me off. Just for the record yes I have been out on my bike stopped once for fuel observed the distancing rule and thoroughly enjoyed myself without putting any one risk other than myself by other road user SMIDSY's.
Re: From wednesday we can use our bikes again. - mtread - 14-05-20
Quote: Usual foccing idiots hijacked a thread,Um, I think you may find the moderator was involved :rolleyes
Re: From wednesday we can use our bikes again. - steve 10562cc - 15-05-20
If the label fits wear it whoever you are
Re: From wednesday we can use our bikes again. - Gnasher - 15-05-20
(14-05-20, 09:38 PM)steve 10562cc link Wrote: Usual foccing idiots hijacked a thread, WHAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE ABOUT BIKERS RIDING BIKES after a long lay off. You wonder why this forum p-ss-s me off. Just for the record yes I have been out on my bike stopped once for fuel observed the distancing rule and thoroughly enjoyed myself without putting any one risk other than myself by other road user SMIDSY's.
Glad to here it mate,
Only someone will go out with the same intention and either end up being just another daily biker road casualty due to some arse in a car/van/lorry etc as all the cagers are going to out as well. Added to that, this time of year all the fair weather riders start popping out, being a bit rusty get themselves into trouble either way, do you really want to be in A&E at present?I'm glad you got away with, I hope it continues for you, others sadly wont be so lucky!
Re: From wednesday we can use our bikes again. - Oldgit - 15-05-20
Me'z just wants to go out on my bike, but Sturgeon willnae let me.
Re: From wednesday we can use our bikes again. - steve 10562cc - 15-05-20
After 48 years of consistently riding bikes I have long since accepted the grim reality of my passion for riding bikes.
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