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Tachometer jumps to 5K, couldn't find any info on error - arieljt - 02-08-14

Hello everyone!

I'm new to this community and today I bought my first Yamaha Fazer 600 99' (fuel injection)  Big Grin
Sadly, I didn't pay much attention to the fact that the tachometer is trying to tell me something and I made the deal.
What happens is that the tacho jumps from 0 to 5K again and again and again regardless if the engine is running or not, besides that everything about the bike is great!

I tried to look for manuals or around the forum but I only found info about 3K and 7K and even 4K errors but nothing on 5K. Sad

Please help me out, It really ruined the experience for me and I'm afraid to run the bike before I know whats the error.
Thanks!

Re: Tachometer jumps to 5K, couldn't find any info on error - keratos - 02-08-14

sounds like it is the Throttle Position Sensor in setup mode. Unplug the wiring loom from the TPS on the side of the carbs, clean the contacts on both loom and TPS terminal side using Contact Cleaner

Then turn on ignition whilst TPS disconnected, then reconnect TPS still with ignition on then turn ignition off back on and restart

Re: Tachometer jumps to 5K, couldn't find any info on error - arieljt - 02-08-14

(02-08-14, 08:37 PM)keratos link Wrote:sounds like it is the Throttle Position Sensor in setup mode. Unplug the wiring loom from the TPS on the side of the carbs, clean the contacts on both loom and TPS terminal side using Contact Cleaner

Then turn on ignition whilst TPS disconnected, then reconnect TPS still with ignition on then turn ignition off back on and restart

Thank you for helping out, you mentioned carbs, will it work with my fazer even though it is fuel injection and not carburated?
And I need to find a good manual with instructions on where is the TPS located, I never had such an advance bike

Re: Tachometer jumps to 5K, couldn't find any info on error - noggythenog - 02-08-14

Hi arieljt.


Welcome to the forum.


Some questions so that the people in the know can help you a bit more:-


- are you in the United Kingdom?...or another country?.


- is your bike a 1999 Yamaha FZS600 Fazer?.


- do you have a picture of the bike?.




Thanks


Nog

Re: Tachometer jumps to 5K, couldn't find any info on error - keratos - 02-08-14

(02-08-14, 08:57 PM)arieljt link Wrote:[quote author=keratos link=topic=14224.msg160861#msg160861 date=1407008233]
sounds like it is the Throttle Position Sensor in setup mode. Unplug the wiring loom from the TPS on the side of the carbs, clean the contacts on both loom and TPS terminal side using Contact Cleaner

Then turn on ignition whilst TPS disconnected, then reconnect TPS still with ignition on then turn ignition off back on and restart

Thank you for helping out, you mentioned carbs, will it work with my fazer even though it is fuel injection and not carburated?
And I need to find a good manual with instructions on where is the TPS located, I never had such an advance bike
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It will be on the side of the injectors then. Right side when your sat on bike. Big black thing. You can't miss it

Re: Tachometer jumps to 5K, couldn't find any info on error - darrsi - 02-08-14

Am i missing something here?
A 98/99 FZS600 is carbed not injected.

Do a search above for TPS, i've written the error codes in several posts.

Re: Tachometer jumps to 5K, couldn't find any info on error - keratos - 02-08-14

(02-08-14, 09:16 PM)darrsi link Wrote:Am i missing something here?
A 98/99 FZS600 is carbed not injected.

Do a search above for TPS, i've written the error codes in several posts.
Yeah. The OP says FI but I thought FI came years later... until the fz6

BTW I searched TPS and couldn't find your thread on error codes. I already have them but thought I'd mention it

Re: Tachometer jumps to 5K, couldn't find any info on error - arieljt - 02-08-14

Sorry for causing misunderstandings, i'm not sure myself of the exact model, its 99 and it's fuel injections.
I recently moved to Germany and bought this bike, here are some pictures I already had:
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I can take more pictures tomorrow as it's dark and raining now, and thank you all once again for helping!


Re: Tachometer jumps to 5K, couldn't find any info on error - keratos - 02-08-14

That's not fuel injection
They didn't do fi in 99 on fazer
I can see the carbs, right side of bike (your 1st pic) and I can see the TPS on the side with a white plug and it's to the left of the cooling fins on side of carbs 15cm before the rubber protector for the fuel tank . All on the first picture

Re: Tachometer jumps to 5K, couldn't find any info on error - arieljt - 02-08-14

(02-08-14, 09:39 PM)keratos link Wrote:That's not fuel injection
They didn't do fi in 99 on fazer
I can see the carbs, right side of bike (your 1st pic) and I can see the TPS on the side with a white plug and it's to the left of the cooling fins on side of carbs 15cm before the rubber protector for the fuel tank . All on the first picture

Well, apparently the guy was full of shit I guess, thanks for pointing out. Is this the TPS?:
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Re: Tachometer jumps to 5K, couldn't find any info on error - noggythenog - 02-08-14






Hello again


Looks like quite a nice bike.....and as keratis says it is a Carb engine, not fuel injected........FZS600 fazer.




The fazer was not fuel injected until 2003 with the FZ6 fazer.


Anyway that is by the by....you need to sort out your 5k tacho issue......as Darrsi says if you use the search function on this forum he has listed the different codes and meanings of different tacho needle indications.

Re: Tachometer jumps to 5K, couldn't find any info on error - keratos - 02-08-14

Yes. That is the TPS
Try what I suggested and also...
follow Darrsi's guide

Re: Tachometer jumps to 5K, couldn't find any info on error - arieljt - 02-08-14

Thanks! I looked for codes regarding 5K techo, but didn't find, so i'll search for the TPS guide and will report back.



Re: Tachometer jumps to 5K, couldn't find any info on error - keratos - 02-08-14

i Repeat. Try what I suggested and tell us what happens

Re: Tachometer jumps to 5K, couldn't find any info on error - noggythenog - 02-08-14

(02-08-14, 10:00 PM)arieljt link Wrote:Thanks! I looked for codes regarding 5K techo, but didn't find, so i'll search for the TPS guide and will report back.


I searched TPS and found the following recent thread...take a slow read through it and there will be useful info for you.......at a quick glance it looks like 5K is a good code but that you need to complete the setting up process......but dont quote me on that as i only glanced at the thread and I've never done it before.


Here is the thread.




http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,13864.msg157056.html#msg157056


Good luck.

Re: Tachometer jumps to 5K, couldn't find any info on error - arieljt - 02-08-14

(02-08-14, 10:01 PM)keratos link Wrote:i Repeat. Try what I suggested and tell us what happens

Will do, tomorrow everything is closed and I don't have any contact cleaning spray, so the day after that i'll report back.
Thank you once again!  Smile

Re: Tachometer jumps to 5K, couldn't find any info on error - keratos - 02-08-14

you might not need the contact cleaner. The electrics could have got "stuck". If doing what I suggest doesnt clear the error (rev counter showing 5,000) then clean contacts. If still 5,000 then we need to diagnose the electrics which I can help with if needed.

Re: Tachometer jumps to 5K, couldn't find any info on error - arieljt - 03-08-14

(02-08-14, 10:08 PM)noggythenog link Wrote:[quote author=arieljt link=topic=14224.msg160885#msg160885 date=1407013256]
Thanks! I looked for codes regarding 5K techo, but didn't find, so i'll search for the TPS guide and will report back.
I searched TPS and found the following recent thread...take a slow read through it and there will be useful info for you.......at a quick glance it looks like 5K is a good code but that you need to complete the setting up process......but dont quote me on that as i only glanced at the thread and I've never done it
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Thank you, I thought about the possibility that the TPS is stuck (?) at the setup mode, but in my case the tacho shows 5K regardless if I plug the TPS cable out and in, I don't know what I can do in that case.
I've tried what keratos suggested - cleaning the contacts but its still the same.
Here's a video:
http://videobam.com/pyvmM

Re: Tachometer jumps to 5K, couldn't find any info on error - keratos - 03-08-14

OK. We can test the electrics. My hunch is that the TPS is faulty or the wiring to it is faulty.
Have you got a multimeter that tests for CONTINUITY and RESISTANCE . if not you need to by one. Prices's vary to quality. Mine cost £350 but you can pick a simple one up from an automotive shop for less than £20. Come back when you have one and we run a few tests

Re: Tachometer jumps to 5K, couldn't find any info on error - arieljt - 03-08-14

(03-08-14, 10:04 AM)keratos link Wrote:OK. We can test the electrics. My hunch is that the TPS is faulty or the wiring to it is faulty.
Have you got a multimeter that tests for CONTINUITY and RESISTANCE . if not you need to by one. Prices's vary to quality. Mine cost £350 but you can pick a simple one up from an automotive shop for less than £20. Come back when you have one and we run a few tests
I have a good old fluke multimeter! Please guide me through  Big Grin